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Cjevansaicp, good luck, and have fun. --Aboutmovies (talk) 05:51, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Oregon State University

You added how many paragraphs and sentences about an issue that has not even made The Oregonian (that I've seen)? What that means is the ADA issue has been given undue weight. Remember, we have a school that is about 150 years old, the ADA has only been around about 20 years, and this issue apparently is only covered by the Barometer (perhaps the G-T covered it too, but I don;t recall any cites to it). At most, a sentence or two would be appropriate. Secondly, some assertions are not cited (DOJ items), and they need to be for those types of allegations. Lastly, and this ties into the first point, details such as "HR 74-4.01" are too much minutiae; this is an encyclopedia, not a blog (nor an advocacy forum for that matter). Aboutmovies (talk) 07:33, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

DOJ assertions? Are you talking about the last sentence or two?

I'm not sure how to balance this given the University's position is an admission that the basic facts are accurate. I could include a link to the University's consultant report which identified over 5500 violations of the ADA in the external areas of the University. What I'd prefer not to do is to get into a technical analysis of what the ADA requires and how the University doesn't comply. This is an important issue because 22 years after the ADA was passed (and 36 years after Section 504 of the National Rehabilitation Act) the University has made no effort to comply. It's important because it is a historic campus and how these issues are addressed can assist other similarly situated universities.

Undue weight? Wikipedia has an "extensive" section on the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950-1960's. That affected thirteen percent of the population. The ADA is a Civil Rights act that applies to twenty percent of the population. You might not consider it important but, given the vast bulk of non-retirement entitlements go to individuals with disabilities, it's current.

I am concerned: your comment "about an issue that has not even made The Oregonian" implies that something must be blessed by the Oregonian to warrant treatment. Perhaps this is in an of itself --- lack of coverage --- that is evidence of discrimination? Where then does one learn of this? BTW, it has also been covered by the Corvallis Advocate, the Commerce Business Daily and the Gazette-Times.

What would you suggest? I get that you might think that I am too close to this that I might not be objective; I get that. If you would be willing to write it I can get you whatever information you need.

Cjevansaicp (talk) 07:26, 24 January 2013 (UTC)