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Mangwanani (talk) 19:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles, as you did to The Riddle of the Sands. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Old Moonraker (talk) 06:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for those links. I'm trying my best to read up on the Wiki rules as I go! Please give me tips in the future, and I'll be weary of soapboxing from now on. Cheers! :) ChildersFamily (talk) 08:34, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

My edit was an automated one, generated by TWINKLE, and was probably too harsh as a result. It's my responsibility to use the tool carefully, though, so apologies. I seem to be guilty of biting! "Soapboxing" is really promoting yourself, or your own product, which was clearly not the case here. I'm glad The Riddle of the Sands is out on DVD, though: It deserves it. All the best. --Old Moonraker (talk) 08:46, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Excellent Work

Great work on Legion of Frontiersmen - the poster is wonderful Gillyweed (talk) 09:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

My Pleasure!! Any way I can help honor all those Frontiersmen that paid the ultimate price in the "Great" war.! Those were desperate times. Cheers! :) ChildersFamily (talk) 10:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Asgard

Hi

Well done for expanding the article on the Asgard from the pathetic stub I created two years ago. However, there are two small points:

1. Per WP:NAME, the article should be named Asgard (yacht), not Asgard Childers. The boat is not and never was known as "Asgard Childers" — it has always been called "Asgard", and wikipedia's naming policy is to name articles by their common name. However, in cases such as this where that name is in use for something else, we add a "disambiguator", a word or (if really necessary, a brief phrase) in parentheses to distinguish this use of the name from other uses. So I have moved it back to Asgard (yacht). (For the same reasons, I have restored Erskine Childers (UN) back to that article title, because I can find no evidence of him being widely known as Erskine B; do you have anything to suggest otherwise?)
2. The article now says that the boat was purchased from Colin Archer. Are you really sure about that? The reason I ask is that the term "Colin Archer" has long since been a generic term for vessels in the spirit of Colin Archer's designs, and I often wondered whether Asgard was an actual Archer boat or a clone.

Keep up the good work :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello,

1. Erskine B was most known for his writings and more specifically his book on the suez canal, which is still being referenced today. If you google "erskine childers suez " for example, all the hits that come up are Erskine B. He worked for the UN much later in his career.

2. The "asgard" was designed and built by Colin Archer specifically at the request of Robert Erskine Childers. My references on the page are translations of the original colin archer norwegian manifest list, as he only built around 70 yachts in total. If you scroll down to the list of yachts and go to the year 1905, you'll see the "asgard" on the manifest. The "Colin Archer" in sailing terms is used because of the unique hull shape that Colin Archer developed. His hull design was considered to be years ahead of it's time.

Thanks, ChildersFamily (talk) 16:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Molly Childers

Hi again

I have moved the article Mary Alden Childers to Molly Childers, because that is what she was best known as (see WP:COMMONNAME).

However, I see no chance that she could meet the notability requirements of WP:BIO — per WP:BIO#Invalid_criteria, "That person A has a relationship with well-known person B is not a reason for a standalone article on A (unless significant coverage can be found on A)".

The few snippets that I have read about Molly suggest that she was a wonderfully dynamic character, but unfortunately that plus being the spouse of someone notable don't add to Molly being notable. The article in her should really be merged into Robert Erskine Childers, unless you can demonstrate that she meets WP:BIO#Basic_criteria. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

oops! She clearly does meet the notability criteria, because of the allegations of spying, which I have now started to add the article. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Images

Would you happen know when this image was first published, and where. If it is in the public domain (not subject to copyright) it would make a relevant addition to this article. (appreciate your edits btw.) RashersTierney (talk) 18:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

https://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/concern/works/5999n526d

The photo is from 1914. This is the original image from Trinity College Library, Dublin. They retain rights to the image, but its free of any copyright, as far as I know.

Thanks. ChildersFamily (talk) 16:51, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello. The photo with the rifles is from the papers and collection held by TrinityCollegeLibrary in Dublin. You'd need to contact them for usage and rights questions. There's a contact link from their website. Cheers.ChildersFamily (talk) 01:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll see what they have to say. RashersTierney (talk) 01:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello, do you have a source for Molly's date of birth? I don't doubt it's correct, but as I've worked out that Oxford DNB lists it as 1877, a source would be needed. Please add it yourself if you can. Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 12:59, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Progress on Robert Erskine Childers

I'm still working my way through: the next phase is the "arms committee" with Casement, Spring Rice, etc., then secretary at the 1921 treaty negotiations. Do you have any more photographs? There is a published one of Erskine and Molly together on Asgard, but I'm not sure if I can use it because of copyright. Thanks for your oversight! --Old Moonraker (talk) 06:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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