ChaplainKent
Hey there! I saw that you made a very sweeping edit to the WHINSEC article. It looks like you put a lot of effort into it. Some parts, however, are not neutral in their point of view. You made it clear that you are affiliated with the WHINSEC. You removed a substantial amount of information about "torture manuals" that is in fact verifiable by Amnesty International as well as other independant organizations. I'm going to put that part back right now and will continue to help improve the article. Eclectek C T 05:40, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
"Some parts are not neutral" And you think the way this article is written is neutral in its language? I removed the torture manuel material because is just isn't true. You removed the explaination I gave concering the research I made on how that all came about. Why? That information is true and accurate. Over 10 congressional inquiries into the school found no such evidence. Just because Amenisty International has a copy of a manuel doesn't mean that it was ever used for instruction or approved as appropriate by the school. The article states as fact something which is just plain false. You also removed a correction I made on the huamn rights training. The article again states and "only a few" are giving the instruction. In fact its mandatory for all students. And the eight hours is the minimum. So if your there for a three week course out of fifteen days of instrucion you get one of human rights. Longer courses have much longer sections of training. Just why was that removed. Here's the link to document the proof of my statement. [1]
You imply that I'm not objective because of my association with the school. Well that association is not paid and I'm not staff. I'm a social justice advocate from the religious community who was invited to look closely with a critical eye at the school, what it teachers, and what it does. That invitation to become an advisor to the Board Of Visitors came originally in 2002 when I heard all the accusations made against the school and went directly to them myself seeking information to either verify or disprove. They were overjoyed that somebody actually wanted to investigate and seek the truth in the matter rather than just parrot SOA Watch and their very biased rhetoric. As I continue to investigate the school and talk with those trying to close it down here is the conclusion I came to. And this is words coming from the detractors own mouths. "Well, even if all the things your saying are true we still want the school closed because we don't like our governements foreign policy towards the region." There are also a number of those who use the "torture manuel" false accusation to drum up emotions and support all the while knowing that it implies something which simply isn't true. They don't really care that torture was never taught at the school nor that the actual instuction manuels had nothing at all about it in them. Simply disagreeing with foreign policy would get a big yawn from most people and they certainly wouldn't take the time to write legislators or join protest marches. December 23rd 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ChaplainKent (talk • contribs) 00:48 24 December 2006.
Reverend / Chaplain Kent Svendsen United States Army Reserve
Hey there Kent: Lets move this discussion to the talk page of the WHINSEC article. That way it'll be in a place that more people will be able to add their imput. So lets discuss at WHINSEC talk. Thanks! Eclectek C T 17:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)