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Latest comment: 11 months ago by Aaron Liu in topic NPPS
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Dear Cassiopeia. Could you delete an article for me?

Dearest Cassiopeia.

The article you once helped me create: House of Rosensverd

has frequently been subject to smears and harrasment and vandalism.

Thus: We ask you kindly to delete it. Wikipedia is not the place for serious articles but a hangout for vandals and stalkers.

So: Please: Delete it.

I have removed the content anyway.

Thank you Cassiopeia.

Norges Adelstand (talk) 14:43, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

  You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of Jewish states and dynasties § Did attempts to change POV in this list go too far & make it more biased?. Peaceray (talk) 00:13, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Kevin Lee's conversion

It says here [1] that twitter is unreliable unless the tweet is used for an uncontroversial self-description. In the source I provided, Kevin Lee announced his conversion to Islam from his own verified twitter account and self-described himself as a Muslim. 41.45.97.34 (talk) 01:38, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

41.45.97.34 Twitter is not reliable source but self source can used sparingly about the subject alone. You dont need to keep on add two same source in info provided. Cassiopeia talk 04:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Goodbye Cassiopeia

I have been struggling with my depression for a bit, and I am now taking a WikiBreak, If you still have slots open I might want to return to CVUA, farewell.

With regards, I followed The Username Policy (Message Me) (What I have done on Wikipedia) 02:02, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

I followed The Username Policy Thank you for informing and you can return and continue anytime when you are ready as I am always here. Do seek help of your situation and go through it asap as the longer the unpleasant feelings stay, the harder it goes away. Take good care of yourself and be safe. Cassiopeia talk 10:22, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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Non NPPS-related request from your NPPS student

Greetings! While I was patrolling badminton biographies, I noticed a lot of SIGCOV-failing articles as zero coverage can be found online. However, two users don't seem to understand the guidelines. One removed all my PRODs of GNG-failing articles, e.g. Patiphat Chalardchaleam, Trawut Potieng,‎ Kittipon Kittikul, Teeranun Chiangta, and Siripong Siripool, with a reason of "has achievements", which I believe is not a valid reason at all. That user also participated in my AFD nominations, saying "It passes NBAD" (barely) or if it doesn't pass NBAD "The subject has achievements which I believe is notable". Another user also used achievements to determine notability, and even said "trivial mentions from some sources establish notability". I am really afraid that the AFD will end with the two non guideline-based (and in my opinion invalid) comments, so can you do some clarification about this situation? Am I wrong about GNG? Thank you very much!

P.S. I will continue working on assignment 2 this Friday. Thank you for your time and effort on preparing the questions! Timothytyy (talk) 13:46, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Timothytyy Good day. Frist of all both SSN and GNG can be used to establish notability but SSN does NOT supersede GNG. We use SSN for notability as we assume for the subject to pass SSN then it means there should meet SIGOV as to pass the SSN, it usually means they subject has achieve very significant achievement and independent, reliable would have written about them. In short, if a subject passes GNG it valid a page in Wikipedia. (note:Pls also to do a WP:BEFORE prior nomination or place your discussion (vote) on AfD. Some subjects are from countries which English is not their main or second language, and they might have sources talk about them in their local language.) As for your question above, barely pass NBAD or trivial mention is considered pass GNG or NBAD is incorrectly and we can NOT use trivial mention or barely pass as the argument that the subject pass notability guidelines. However, pls note that if the subject fail NBAD, but pass GNG then the subject is valid a page. Hope this answer your question and let me know if anything else I can help. (Btw: thanks for updating me about your assignment progress). Bes safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 00:01, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive

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C.V.U - I need a trainer

Hello,

I'd like a trainer and be trained for the Counter-Vandalism Unit. I have just under 200 edits, but I have originally created 2 articles. If you could train me that would be nice. Thanks.


BillClinternet (talk) 16:41, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

BillClinternet, Good day and thank you for interested in CVUA program. The min total "main space" edits to join the program is 200 and you have only 99 - see here. Secondly, to be a counter vandalism editor, you need to understand and communicate in a polite and civil manner to all editors, including the vandalized editors) and not edit warring, disruptive editing. I suggest you to complete the WP:TWA program first to understand some basic Wikipedia guidelines and have more edits prior pop back here to join the program. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 23:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
I was looking at my total edits on wikipedia rather than mainspace. My misunderstanding. I have already acquired the knowledge of speaking in a civil way to others and I have been editing since January 2022 (I only made this account rather recently).
Thanks for the additional resouce,
BillClinternet (talk) 18:57, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

RfC on upcoming fights in record tables

Greetings. You are invited to participate in an RfC on whether to include or omit upcoming fights in professional boxing record tables. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 18:09, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

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Question from PRANAVSHARMAAAA (11:56, 22 April 2023)

hello.......I WANT TO WRITE BIOGRPHY OF ONE PERSON --PRANAVSHARMAAAA (talk) 11:56, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

PRANAVSHARMAAAA Good day and thank you for the question. An article of a person (subect) can only be in the Wikipedia main space if the subject passes Wikipedia notability guidelines. Pls read WP:Your First Article for further information and once you have read the two links (highlighted texts) above and you still have any questions then pop back here and let me know. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 10:12, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

NPP school

Can I start classes with you at NPP school? I haven't yet obtained the new page reviewer right. But I wanna attend the training for preparation. Please create an assignment page for me. Thanks. RoboCric Let's chat 09:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Note: I mostly edit articles related to sports and wish to work in that particular area in future. RoboCric Let's chat 09:33, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
RoboCric Good day. Thank you for interested in NPPS program. Pls note that the program is extremely complex and comprehensive which would take up a lot of your time to read and work on the assignments. However, there is no time limit to finish the program. Most participants would take about 3 months to complete it. If you are still interest after knowing the above info then pls complete WP:TWA first (very short 90mins program) and once you have done that then pls pop back here and I will set up the program for you. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 10:38, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi. I have completed that short program. I now wish to start the assignment. Please create a page for me. RoboCric Let's chat 11:28, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
RoboCric Hi, I have set up the program for you and pls book mark the page. Pls read the "communication section" first (at the bottom of the assignment) prior answering the questions. Pls let me know if you have any questions or when you have completed the assignment by sending a message on the communication section. Welcome to NPPS. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 11:45, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 April 2023

NPP School traning

Hi, I'd like to apply to become one of your NPP School trainees. I've been patrolling new pages for a year now, but I've only been looking at 5-10 pages a week, and mostly rely off of this flowchart, which doesn't cover a lot, meaning I'm fairly inexperienced. I think your help would be very helpful for me to become a better new page patroller and to expand my work of maintaining Wikipedia's quality. interstatefive  00:54, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Interstatefive Good day. Thank you for interested in NPPS program. Pls note that the program is extremely complex and comprehensive which would take up a lot of your time to read and work on the assignments. However, there is no time limit to finish the program. Most participants would take about 3 months to complete it. If you are still interest after knowing the above info then pls complete WP:TWA first (very short 90mins program) and once you have done that then pls pop back here and I will set up the program for you. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 10:37, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
I'm up for it. However, when I said I was "inexperienced", I didn't mean I didn't know much about policies such as WP:NPOV or WP:V, I meant I didn't know much on the NPP process due to completely relying on the flow chart. Do you think the TWA would still be helpful, even though it just covers stuff I already know? interstatefive  22:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Interstatefive You would familiar with the basic/fundamental general Wikipedia guidelines by taking the TWA program. Pls complete the TWA program (only 90 mins) and pop back here and I will set up the program for you. Cassiopeia talk 03:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
  Done interstatefive  01:58, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

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Potential student

Hi Cass. Long time no speak. Hope you're going well. Saw this editor @CoderThomasB detect spam and reach out to the Teahouse for help. To me that shows a degree of competence and conduct that is very promising, particularly as he only has 250 edits. I recommended that he at one stage requests to complete UVAA, although they may need a little more experience before enrolling...promising potential future student. Take care, MC MaxnaCarta (talk) 02:14, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

I would definitely be interested in learning more about anti-vandalism/counter-vandalism and the related tools on Wikipedia! But I would like to know what kind of things are involved in a mentorship before fully committing, and to make sure the mentorship doesn't interfere with school and other such things. I have mainly worked on other wiki-like projects like OpenStreetMap and a bit of open source software, but as you can see by my edit count I haven't done much substantial on Wikipedia yet, but I do think I have a reasonable understanding of most of the guidelines. Also, I think you meant WP:CVUA or WP:AAU not UVAA, would that be correct? - CoderThomasB (talk) 12:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
@CoderThomasB yep, CVUA is correct. Forgive the typo. At this level of edits, you probably won't be accepted just yet. I recommend you go over to the page and take a look at the curriculum. Some things off the top of my head you will learn:
  1. How to use tools like Twinkle and the Recent Changes log to detect clear vandalism
  2. How to detect and report vandalism to administrators
  3. How to detect and report other issues such as username violations, copyright, spam, and other misc issues
  4. How to (once you are ready) apply for advanced permissions like Rollbacker which enable you to use Huggle (Do not use Huggle until someone explains how it works, you can do significant damage very quickly by accident if you do not know what you're doing). Etc etc.
MaxnaCarta (talk) 01:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)


@MaxnaCarta and CoderThomasB: Good day. Thank you MaxnaCarta for the message - it has been a while since we last communicate - believe all is fine and hope you are well. CoderThomas B, AAU is part of the CUVA program among many other topics. CUVA is a program for editor who would like to be a counter vandalism editor. The participant needs to have at least 200 minimum total main space to join the program and at the current stage you have 84 - see here. You can come back here if you want to join once you have reach the required edits; however, I do recommend you to complete WP:TWA first (a very short program -90 mins) so you may familiar with Wikipedia fundamental guidelines. CVUA do take a lot of your time for you need to read the guidelines and do the assignment; however, there is not time limit to complete the program. Most participants take about 3 months to complete the program. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 09:59, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

CVUA request

Hi Cassiopeia. I started CVUA with you a while back (here is my request). Unfortunately I didn't finish due to being busy at the time, but I'd like to complete it now. Could I either resume from where I left off or start over? Thanks!  — RTao (talk • contribs) 05:55, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

RTao Good day and good to hear from you again. Yes, you may continue where you left off (assignment 3). Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 09:49, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Question

Hi Cassi sorry for bother i was wondering if i could ask you something? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 20:57, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

DarkHorseMayhem Ask away. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
What you think of Draft:Michał Materla that I improve and worked really hard on it and Materla is more then enough notable to be on mainspace can we move draft to mainspace wha you think? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 03:55, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Sorry DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 03:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
DarkHorseMayhem I have reviewed the draft page and the subject does not meet the WP:MMABIO or WP:GNG notability guidelines to be merit a page in Wikipedia main space. Pls note that fight reports (announcements and results) are considered routine reports and do not contribute to the notability requirements. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:37, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
you know that a lot of least notable fighters have page right? DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 03:39, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
So all hard work I did was fro nothing just fro you to say that guy who is one the most notable fighters in Poland long term former champ can't get a page DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 03:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I know Polish and can add way more sources. Materla is notable and there is much info about his life on the internet, tho mostly in Polish.HeinzMaster (talk) 03:47, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Would be appreciated Heinz thanks in advance DarkHorseMayhem (talk) 03:49, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
I'll add it to the top of my que to do articles. Will finish it in the next day or so. Thanks for the help HeinzMaster (talk) 03:51, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
HeinzMaste OK, pls add extra independent, reliable sources to meet the notability guidelines. Once it is done, then move to main space or ping for review. Thank you very much. Cassiopeia talk 04:08, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

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NPP School traning - did you forget?

Hey,


A few days ago I requested to become one of your NPP shool trainees, and you said yes, so long as I completed The Wikipedia Adventure. I did, and I said so, but you haven't gotten back to me. Now, the thread is archived, so I'm wondering if you're still on board with this or if you can't. Thanks! interstatefive  00:48, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Interstatefive Thank you for the message. I thought I had set up the program for you but apparently I didnt - My bad and apologies. I have done it now and pls read the "communication section" at the bottom of the assignment prior read links/guidelines and answer the assignment. Welcome to NPPS. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Interstatefive Dont forget to bookmark your NPPS program page. Cassiopeia talk 04:59, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

CVU training

Hello! I would like you to train me and teach me the ropes of counter-vandalism. I have a little bit of experience doing it, I have about 150 edits (130 vandalism reverts), which is a bit short of the 200 requirement, but I still hope you consider me. Idkiguessus (talk) 02:08, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I should add i know CSS and JS Idkiguessus (talk) 23:10, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
Idkiguessus Thank you for interested in joining the program. However, the requirement for editor needs to have at least minimum total main space edits of 200 to join the program and you have total of 77 currently. Pop back here if you are still interest once you have reach the required edits and at the mean time pls complete WP:TWA program to familiar with the fundamental Wikipedia guidelines. (Note: I suggest you to remove the "warning" info on your user page as it is not polite nor it serves any purposes especially if you want to become a counter vandalism editor. Cassiopeia talk 08:50, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 8 May 2023

Shavkat Rakhmonov

Take a look at the history, An edit war has taken place. Articlread (talk) 06:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Articlread Thank you for notifying. They were unsourced edits and the IP editor has been warned. Btw, it is important to continuinging warn the editor for every of such edit. Once it reaches the level 4 warning, and the editor continuing of such edit, we can notify AIV about the editor. To say that, it is unsouced edit and not a vandalism edit, so pls be aware of WP:3RR revert rule and dont revert more than 3 times within 24 hours on the same page for you will be blocked from editing. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 08:59, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
  The Modest Barnstar
For helping me with the Shavkat Rakhmonov page. Keep up the good work. Articlread (talk) 19:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

NPPS

Hello there, I am interested in joining NPP school. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 23:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

What a coincidence, I’d also like to enroll in NPP school! Aaron Liu (talk) 16:24, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

@Aaron Liu and Snowmanonahoe: Hi, Thank you for interested in joining the program. Pls note that the program is extremely comprehensive and do require a lot of your time to do the assignment and reading the material (guidelines). Most participants take about 3 months to complete the program; however there is no time limit to finish course. Pls let me know if you are still interested after reading the above info prior I set up the program for you. By the way, Snowanonahoe, pls complete WP:TWA (about 90 mins) program first to familiar with the fundamental Wikipedia guidelines and one you have done so, then pop back here if you want to join the program. Cassiopeia talk 08:44, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
I think I'm still interested. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
@Aaron Liu: I have set up the program for you and pls read the "communication section" at the bottom of the assignment prior start answering the question. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:36, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
@Cassiopeia I’ve finished the first assignment! Also, I’m pretty sure MOS prohibits using semicolon list items for headers. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
@Aaron Liu: pls send me message at the bottom of the assignment page regarding the assignment info/message/questions and not here at my talk page so we could keep all the communication regarding the program in one page. Cassiopeia talk 01:55, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Sure. However, the assignment page does not allow the quick new reply feature. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
@Aaron Liu: You can click edit on top of the page and then scroll down to the communication section to write the message. Cassiopeia talk 02:16, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I know that and that's what I have done. The "reply" button is a lot more convenient though. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
@Aaron Liu: if you know how to use it and know to you is a little in convenient and also know that is the way it should be done for the program then that is no good reasons for you comment at all. Cassiopeia talk
I mean I did that after you requested it. Aaron Liu (talk) 11:31, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


I understand your warning and am still interested. Do I have to do The Wikipedia Adventure though? It seems aimed at editors much newer than myself, and I'm not a fan of the edits its making to my userspace. It's also very buggy to the point of near unusability.Snowmanonahoe (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Snowmanonahoe WP:TWA is a very help program for all editor especially edition have not edit for a long time. To be a counter vandalism is not about worrying certain info appear in your user page as you can always remove them. If you truly understand guidelines, then you would not ask editors not to look at your user history page and commented that it is buggy to the point of near unitability. To be a counter vandalism is to help the project by deter and educate editors who make vandalism edits or edits that is not helpful but unknown to the editor due to they do not know the Wikipedia guidelines in a gentle, polite manner. I dont think you have the mindset to work on counter vandalism work at this moment, when you are and still interested in volunteer in counter vandalism then do pop back here in the future. Until then take care and bee safe. Cassiopeia talk 03:36, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Do you have me confused with someone else? I have edited quite a bit recently—I suppose I had a gap in activity 2 years ago but after I came back makes up 75% of my edits—I’m interested in joining new page patrol school, not CVUA, and I never asked you to look at my userpage history.
Also, the reason why I said it’s unusably buggy is because it, well it is. Try it yourself. Any part that involves pressing the edit button doesn’t work. It doesn’t detect that you’ve pressed the edit button properly. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 03:42, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
Snowmanonahoe My apologies, I meant NPPS. Not sure you try in on mobile or lap top. Somme editors find it hard to get the program work due to they tried it on mobile as the system might not support certain features in mobile but it always work if you do the program in laptop for no editors have told me they have problem with the program using their desk or laptop. NPPS is a very compressive and complex program, it is very hard for any editor who do not have fundamental guidelines of Wikipedia for most editors who have done the TWA program would quite NPPS program after they have done 3-4 assignments because it entails so much work and understanding of the guidelines. But for those editors who completed the program would gain so much understanding not only to review new page but for general editing purposes in Wikipedia especially those editor would like to be a long term editors in the project. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:56, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Error in title and numeration

There's an error with last week's event that should be fixed and corrected:

Keep up the excellent work you're doing! Thanks. --Discographer (talk) 10:40, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Discographer I see and thank you for the information. Will rename all the events and fighters associated with it will take some time to get it done as it involved many articles to be corrected. Thanks again. Be safe and best. Cassiopeia talk 03:16, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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