User talk:C12H22O11/archive04

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This archive contains 25 discussions between the dates of 10 October and 07 November 2005. The views expressed here do not necessarily represent the actual opinions of anyone. - sucrose (C₁₂H₂₂O₁₁)

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• archive 01 (18 Apr 2005 - 17 Aug 2005)
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• archive 04 (10 Oct 2005 - 07 Nov 2005)
• archive 05 (08 Nov 2005 - 24 Dec 2005)
• archive 06 (25 Dec 2005 - 13 Jan 2006)
• archive 07 (14 Jan 2006 - 28 Feb 2006)
• archive 08 (01 Mar 2006 - 22 May 2006)
• archive 09 (25 May 2006 - 06 Jul 2006)
• archive 10 (22 Jul 2006 - 28 Aug 2006)

=0!

Which part of Varissuo did you live? =) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.186.65.242 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

)! I live in Krööpilänkatu 2 \o/!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.186.65.242 (talk • contribs) 18:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

banning 206.131.30.1

Please do not ban 206.131.30.1.

This is a computer in the media center of a high school that has a population of over 1000 and it would greatly irk future wikipedians. i understand that someone is using this computer to vandalize wikipedia, but it would also have a negitive impact on the school if you were to ban the address. thank you, --Akako 19:42, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Ok, what are the limits of 'vandalism'? is this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take2entertainment) vandaism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.235.133 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

So do i have to reform, or just stop? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.235.133 (talk • contribs) 20:01, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I am guessing that the above post is from the person using the school computer to edit wikipedia. I would suggest creating an account to edit wikipedia with and signing your account name on the New User Log. Also, visiting the Welcome page, Manual of Style,Wiquette Guide, and the Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial would help you to make a lasting positive impact on Wikipedia. I hope that this is helpfull.

--Akako 00:08, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. I am sorry if you believe I over-reacted. I mearly noticed when I came on wikipedia that there were messages on the user page of my IP and misunderstood their meaning. --Akako|☎ 19:56, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Earth

Please look Earth's structure, I think this was a "too big part" of the article earth, and think is better to make a new article "Earth's structure" and a summary section "Earth#Structure". I just restaured my previous version, please explain your choice if you don't agree this way.~ See You :] Yug 12:40, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

And if you want help to do a 20 lines summary of Earth's structure : that's welcome too ^0^ Yug 12:43, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree the new name : I'm french, and I still have some difficulties with this kind of subtilities. But I improve :] Yug 12:49, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello, can you take a look at "Earth#Structure", I wrote ~3 lines in english, and I made probably some mistakes. Thank you Yug (talk) 13:09, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Beyond Lies the Wub

Hi there. Just to let you know I finally got around to reading this and you were right to recommend it. I'm quite glad that 'the wub' turned out to be something nice, I was worried it might be some kind of evil creature! the wub "?!" 14:05, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

MAYDAY

198.169.140.30, block this guy fast, churning out deleted articles at 2 per minute, It was a school IP, so maybe break is over now--- Anyway glad thats over, at that rate he could have caused a lot of damage.

Prodego 16:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Edited by Prodego

Islam template

Hi Ulayti. There is actually a debate currently going on the talk page and JuanMuslim had only reverted an addition of the article being questioned. I think Thames forgot that it was another editor that had added that to begin with; Juan only reverted back. Just thought I'd inform you. Thanks, a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 18:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Rikke Hvilshøj.jpg

Why did you tag Image:Rikke Hvilshøj.jpg as unverified copyright. That image has a perfectly good copyright statement. Thue | talk 18:57, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Sheffield images

Hi Ulayiti.

The photos Supertram Cathedral 02-07-04.JPG and Supertram Sheffield Station 05-07-04.JPG are mine User:Captain scarlet. I'm sorry if they're of a rather superior quality therefore possibly stolen from somewhere else but I purposely added the site where i host a labelled version of these pics as to prove that the photos I uploaded come straight from my hard drive.
Please check Sheffield Supertram pictures to verify.
You may also check my other photo contributions on the same website Vlaki.com This should lift any doubt you have on the origin of the photos.

Kind regards, Captain scarlet 21:47, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Pandurang Shastri Athavale

Hi there,

It is true that the other user has added much more to the article than you, and so should be using many more cites. In your case, I was mostly referring to the section below, which you added a few months ago and seems like a useful injection of balance (except perhaps for the last sentence -- one person can't be held accountable for the cultural shortcomings of a whole region, right?) and has now been deleted. If you could find cites, you could add it back in. I would do it myself, but I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for such cites...

"Although he claimed to follow the Gita, philosophically his beliefs differed by continuing to cling to idolatry/polytheism, not refuting his followers that worshipped him, and ignoring the universal ethical monotheism that forms the core of the Bhagavad Gita. His Swadhaya movement, which is supposed to be universal, tends to be mostly Gujarati, where different beliefs/people are not usually welcome."

I hope this helps to clarify. Mamawrites ^{& listens} 10:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Oh, well that explains that! Sorry to bother you. Mamawrites ^{& listens} 10:45, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Template:Support

Please take note that your recent deletion of said template was against the rules of wikipedia stated clearly on the talk page of the article and in Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion. Halibutt 12:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

No it wasn't. Speedy criterion G4 is 'A substantially identical copy, by any title, of a page that was deleted according to the deletion policy.' That's exactly what it was. - ulayiti (talk) 12:28, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

So, instead of helping to solve the dispute you've solved it yourself to your own liking. Too bad. Halibutt 12:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

The Muslim Guild

I thought you might be interested in joining The Muslim Guild. --JuanMuslim 03:05, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

tram stops

I noticed that you have moved most of the Midland Mainline, Nottingham Express Transit and Sheffield Supertram articles from "xx tram station" to "xx tram stop". Whilst in some cases this is correct, there are several instances where the stop is a actually station with proper platforms etc., especially in the out of town sections (e.g. David Lane tram station). I suppose for consistency though it's best to stick to just one format (with the exception being interchanges with railway stations). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Our Phellap (talk • contribs) 16:59, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

right

... now I hope you have time to look at this [[1]]BrandonYusufToropov 15:44, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Eid Mubarak to you and best wishes. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 02:49, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

212.85.15.83

212.85.15.83's vandalism is not just "long ago"; there was a thorough nonsense article that he/she created today that has been speedied and therefore doesn't show up on the contribution list. --Nlu 12:44, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

But 'returning vandal' is not a criterion for someone to be blocked. They should get warnings before being blocked just like everybody else. And they've only been warned once today (I was the one who speedied that article, by the way). :) - ulayiti (talk) 12:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

RE: Joseph Wood

Dear Layiti,

I admit i am new to creating/editing pages for wiki, but someone started deleting and editing my work after i spent a great deal of time on it. When I tried to fix my work, someone else put a tag saying that my work was not neutral. I deleted portions of my wrk to make them happy, and then another person put a considering delete tag on my work.

I dont know how this is usually done, but i am very frustrated and upset that these people are trying to mess with my work.

If I flew off the handle, its only because they would not leave my page alone.

Thanx

Joe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harkneysbagels (talk • contribs) 13:21, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Dear Layiti,

I would like the page I created "Joe Allen Wood" to stand on its own merits. I appreciate if people who are better writers than me try to improve the quality of my page. I do not however see what I have started with these 4 people who continue to try and delete my page.

Please advise.

Joe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harkneysbagels (talk • contribs) 13:28, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

RE: Joseph Allen Wood

I am sorry if I reacted badly to what Niu and BayWeather and It67 or whatever his name was did, but they had no right to do what they did. I was not dishonest or inaccurate in my listing. If there was any un neutral info, I deleted it and then they reverted back behind me.

Why?

What was wrong with what I put?

If you tell me, perhaps I can fix it.

Joe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harkneysbagels (talk • contribs) 13:34, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for being helpful

Thank you for your help. I am trying to really put a valid and serious page on here. It was not the way that I understand, the way they do it here. Where I am, you dont let strangers mess with your stuff.

I understand a little now how it works. Ill try to find another place for my article. Please delete my work/name/links, because i do not want to waste my time on something that is going to be destructive to my efforts due to the pettiness of others who have a cushier position than i.

I appreciate your help alone, and not their pettiness and unneedful arrogance. I needed assistance, not arrogance. Me saying that I supported President Bush should not reflect on the relevence or accuracy of my content. Maybe this should be discussed by them after I take my leave.

I am really sorry that I wasted my time. and yours.

Respectfully, Joseph Wood Artist — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harkneysbagels (talk • contribs) 13:50, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

thanx

bye — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harkneysbagels (talk • contribs) 13:59, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Our latest sock puppet person

Ulayiti, with all due respect, I think that you're approaching the issue wrong. This person should not be allowed to act in the way he did and then effectively claim he is the victim. Note how he, even in your conversation with you, mischaracterized the issue into one of censorship because he supported Bush -- which is laughable, at best. I (and I assume the others -- and I arrived on scene relatively late to try to fix his vandalism, not having been involved with the initial placement of the AfD tags) could care less if he supported Bush, Gloria Allred, Weird Al, Hillary Clinton, or Saddam Hussein. It's the behavior that is unacceptable. (Please, in particular, note the racial nature of the vandalism on User:Nlu; with those kinds of attitudes, I seriously doubt that anything the person did can/should be taken seriously.) Your response sent the wrong message. --Nlu 17:16, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

By the way, I forgot to, but thanks for reverting the vandalism. --Nlu 15:56, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Best wishes to you and yours, BrandonYusufToropov 17:23, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Eid Mubarak

Eid Mubarak and best wishes from my side . F.a.y.^{تبادله خيال /c} 18:58, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for reverting vandalism to my user page. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 20:46, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually I am sure I know who the anon user is and he was a pov pushing editor on wikipedia. Now I guess he's using an anon IP. Anyways he has removed about 4 or 5 different vandalism warnings from his page [2]. So if possible I think you should block. Thanks --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 21:48, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Now he's 72.9.242.90 (talk · contribs). Check contribs: he called you an "asshat" and vandalized my user page again. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 21:55, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

please vote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Ramallite

Pakkoruotsi

Hi, is saw you redirected the page meant for pakkoruotsi onto "mandatory swedish".

I find this to be a bad move. Pakkoruotsi in itself is a derrogatory term, not a synonym for mandatory swedish in finnish schools.

It would be similar to redirect "nigger" to "black (race)" (okay, this is an exhageration, but still i'm sure you get my point)

As i'm sure you know pakkoruotsi is a term minted by grassroot organisations such as suomalaisuuden liitto.

In fact i guess a compromise would be removing the whole article on pakkoruotsi. People will find it's meaning with a textual search.

Gillis 21:07, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

'delete and redirect' is not a valid vote?

RE: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rendalls House
Just briefly, why not? There's quite a precedent for doing exactly this, and I haven't checked it in a while but at one point the guide to votes for deletion made this explicit. - brenneman^(t)(c) 01:25, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Hee, this makes it look like I must really hate this house, doesn't it? By the way, even "merge and delete" is possible under some circumstances, and it's also possible to do a history merge, but that's pretty complicated. - brenneman^(t)(c) 01:35, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

LOL. Watching that AfD page was hypnotic. Blue/Blue...Red/Blue...Blue/Blue...Blue/Red... I can't stop watching until the sequence completes! - brenneman^(t)(c)

Although it's technically possible to delete on redirect, it's not advisable to do so unless it is essential to remove information (for instance, a copyright violation or defamation). Although some information in the two articles deleted is unverified, it may still be useful, and the decision on whether or not to incorporate it is an editorial one. I'll probably incorporate such information by looking at the deleted versions, but this isn't ideal as deletion of versions limits who can see them. Deletion should never be performed when there is any doubt as to whether the information to be deleted is useless. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 05:02, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Clearly, those people who state "delete and redirect" think it's advisable. If there was information that contributors to the AfD wanted merged, that is what thay would have stated. If an administrator is uncomfortable carrying out the consensus decision on Afd, they should be applying themselves elsewhere. It's been good fun chatting with you Ulayiti, but I'm taking your talk page off my watchlist now. See you 'round. - brenneman^(t)(c) 05:07, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually Aaron obliquely raises a good point above. Was there a consensus here? There were at least four redirects, five deletes, and only two "delete and redirects". Determining consensus in the circumstances is difficult, but clearly there were a substantial number of "redirect" votes, four against the seven to delete if you count the "delete and redirect" votes as deletes. This looks like a classic "no consensus" result to me, though your mileage may vary.

Of course the whole point of this is that, now that it's been deleted, only administrators like me have a clue what the articles contained, and only we have the ability to reference the deleted material, which I assure you is useful, in writing further content. Deletion in the absence of a clear consensus is never a good thing to do. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 05:27, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Removed db-g1

Hi Ulayiti, hope you are well. I was the one that put the db-g1 tag on the Remixism article. I have to say, I'm surprised that an administrator has removed the tag. I maintain that it is patent nonsense. I don't think that an article, created by Remix Sprites, about Remixism, the philosophy of Remix Sprites, is really appropriate for Wikipedia. It's a joke by some people on a message board [3], and I have to say I raised a smile, but it would be more appropriate on a user page. The user created another article, Master Sprite, which was removed for the same reason. If we can't speed-delete it, could we go through the formal deletion process and vote on removing this? - N 20:09, 7 November 2005 UTC

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