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Greetings edit
Greetings from an Indian on India's 57th Republic Day. --Bhadani 09:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
-TV/DT edit
Why did you change all the articles about Nashville TV stations to eliminate -TV/DT? Those ARE the official call letters for each, are they not? --Zpb52 07:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- That doesn't matter. Any station that broadcasts using the same call letters on both TV band and DT band MUST carry the -TV or -DT suffix. In the interim (that is, until analog TV is phased out and DT becomes the standard), stations carry both suffixes in the -TV/DT format. It is similar to the rule about FM or TV stations that use the same call letters as AM stations. Take WSB in Atlanta, for example. AM is the default band, so there is no such thing as an -AM suffix. However, channel 2 must carry the WSB-TV suffix and 98.5 must carry the -FM suffix in addition to the WSB call letters. When you go to the FCC's website, as you instructed me to do, it gives you information on all stations carrying those call letters, whether they be TV or DT. Because the same call letters are being used on both TV and DT bands, the suffixes must be added until one or the other goes away. --Zpb52 08:55, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- Sigh...you're wrong. --Zpb52 06:38, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Thought I'd weigh in on this topic. There are alot of U.S. TV stations that are licenced with a callsign ending with -TV, some with -LP, and some with -CA. Most are just the call lettters with no postfix. However there are currently only 9, yes nine, stations licenced by the FCC with a callsign ending with -DT. There are currently more stations with -DR callsigns (17) then that. I got these numbers by doing an FCC database search by state, for each state, and searched the results for the string '-D'. This gave me hits for both -DT and -DR stations. If all stations have call letters with -TV or -DT at the end, why are they not listed as such in the FCC database? Please show me a rule or law from an official government site stating what you claim. —A 09:04, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oh forgot to include this, I have compiled the list of all stations that have a callsign ending in either -DT or -DR. If anyone finds anymore please add them to a list. If it ever gets over 20 or so stations I'll move it to a non-user page. User:А/-DT Television stations —A 09:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- One last thing. Article names are to be the fcc assigned call letters of the station the article is about with very few exceptions. As I say in the template I use for renaming station articles: "Consensus on both WP:NC#Broadcasting and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television_Stations#Article_names is that the article name should reflect the actual call letters of the TV station." If anyone doesn't like this, it should be discussed at one of those locations. As per the content of the page, I usualy only change the call letters in an infobox and leave the text how it is. However, I always remove the -DT unless the station is one of the sacred 9. Using this moniker with a callsign is just a marketing tool and not factual. This is an encyclopedia, so unless you are talking about how "this station uses the -DT at the end of their call sign even though it is not their call sign" or something along those lines, we should leave it off wikipedia. —A 09:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
WXOW moved to WXOW-TV edit
I deleted the redirect and moved the article. Let me know if that isn't what you intended ;-) --TimPope 11:49, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Category:Television stations in St. Louis edit
I'm moving Category:Television stations in St. Louis to Category:Television stations in Saint Louis to bring it in line with the rest of the STL related categories and articles Evolauxia 17:06, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Warning edit
乱用のコメントをここにしなければ、またはポストはポルノ場所につながらない。調停委員会はこれが続けば1 週間妨げる。--Houben 09:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
huh? edit
HUH!!!!!!!!! I"M DYING HERE!!!! I DON"T UNDERSTAND!!! I"M TRYING TO HELP BUT I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.255.21.116 (talk • contribs) .
Boothy, thanks for seprataing fact from "so called fact" when it comes to the history of Philadelphia city and county. I guess that one user (he/she will go nameless) is so obsessed about deleting facts and edits based on what he/she see's fit. I know we had this discussion in talk:Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania, but it seems like the user wants to ignore the talk page discussion. Thanks for the support and KEEP FIGHTING!! :) --Moreau36; 2133, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Huh? edit
You're wrong on this issue. Don't you have a life? You're an idiot and a tool. I hope they ban you from wikipedia.South Philly 01:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Wow seems like a sock to me, cant you at least man and register or use your own user account to, "insult" me. And if you are questioning my life, what does it speak about you being here making a comment. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- That last edit of yours showed your lack of civility.South Philly 04:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
- You can call me a sock all you like, but the truth is, you're a bully and you scare people away from wikipedia. South Philly 01:53, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
- That last edit of yours showed your lack of civility.South Philly 04:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Proposed Compromise edit
- Look here Proposed compromise evrik 21:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Protection of pages edit
I've protected 3 of the Philadelphia pages Evrik and you have been reverting for most of last month. I deliberately did not add protection tags to the pages because I do not want to see two productive editors actively monitor those pages only to revert each other. I will periodically lift the protection so that others can edit the page, but if the reversions continue without some significant dialog, I will be inclined to issue reciprocal blocks. The reversions have gone on long enough, and it is time that both of you initiate some generosity and graciousness towards the other party. --HappyCamper 06:10, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- Boothy, I just wrote this to Evrik, and I think it would apply to you as well. In the past month, have you tried to approach Evrik about those articles, either on his talk page, or on the article/category talk pages? It is clear that commenting in the edit summary during your reversions does not suffice to end the edit dispute between the two of you. I'm quite aware that at the moment, you and Evrik have no inclination to communicate with each other - but if you intend to revert those pages, it would not be an unreasonable request to make yourself approachable to others. --HappyCamper 04:15, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia lists Philadelphia as a consolidated city-county. Any article that doesn't belong directly in the Philadelphia Category and is related to the County, probably belongs elsewhere (like Philaelphia History Category).evrik 06:21, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
- Please let me know what your thoughts are then: what would help end the dispute? In the current situation, I am a neutral party between you and Evrik. If I participate on your RfAr, I may not be - I haven't looked at any of the material related to your RfAr yet. If I do this, I will have to step away from monitoring those 3 pages. Would this help resolve the dispute? --HappyCamper 05:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
*I disagree with your interpretation of the Philadelphia Categroies, and am not happy with your personal style. That being said, I don't want to drag this dispute any farther and am offering an olive branch.evrik 19:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I tested my changes to {{fn}} and {{fnb}} before I made them. How did they break? You can see at this test page that they seem to work... ··gracefool |☺ 07:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Replied at User talk:Gracefool#Re:deprecated .7B.7Bfn.7D.7D. ··gracefool |☺ 07:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Lancaster PA infobox edit
Nice job. (Sorry, I tried to figure out a reason to want to ban you, but I couldn't come up with anything.) ClairSamoht 02:11, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Altoona, PA edit
You recently added an infobox to the Altoona page, including a map showing its location in the state. However the location shown is that of Easton, PA (in Northampton County), not Altoona. Altoona is located in Blair County, which is in western PA, closer to Johnstown. I'd fix this myself if I knew how to, but am ignorant in the ways of manipulating PNG files, so I'll leave it up to you. Sixtus LXVI 20:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Image:MDMap-doton-Baltimore.PNG listed for deletion edit
User: Raccoon Fox edit
I have put a request on this user's talk page asking them to stop improperly renaming TV station articles. Please let me know if they contine.—A 05:52, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Hi Boothy443, I noticed the nice image you have uploaded for Oliver Plunkett. I would like to use it for the corresponding article in the German language edition of the Wikipedia. Unfortunately, however, this image has not been uploaded to the Commons yet and I cannot do this myself as its copyright status remains unclear. Currently, it is just tagged public domain without giving a detailed qualification (because of its age, for example). I would appreciate a more detailed copyright status information or an upload to the Commons. In this context it would be helpful to note the name of the artist, the time when it was drawn (if known), and a reference from where it has been taken. Thanks for your help and kind regards, AFBorchert 17:30, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
PATCO line template edit
This is in regard to the PATCO line template that you made on June 10, 2005. I have recently begun to create articles for the PATCO stations and would like to add the template but is terribly confusing to figure out. If you would be so kind, could you help me understand this template or if not, add it to Franklin Square (PATCO station)? Thank you in advance. American Patriot 1776 21:34, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Would it be possible to add an optional small text line below the station name because if that were so, then you could put for example:
To: Lindenwold City Hall Franklin Square (abandoned)
Thanks for your help though with figuring it out! American Patriot 1776 22:23, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
In addition, I'm having trouble getting the template to work. This is what happens
{{Start PATCO box}}
{{PATCO line|
previous= [[8th Street (SEPTA station)|8th & Market]] |
line= Speedline|
next= [[City Hall (PATCO Station)|City Hall]]|
term1= [[15-16th & Locust (PATCO Station)|15-16th & Locust]]
term2= [[Lindenwold (NJT station)|Lindenwold]] |}}
{{end box}}
I don't know if I'm just leaving stuff out or what but if you could help it pould be greatly appreciated! And sorry if I'm being a pain with all this! American Patriot 1776 22:32, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
That image will stand. The image you gave me on the Irish military website is not of a high-enough quality to vectorize, and image loading is very slow at the moment. Denelson83 05:21, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Just letting you know that I went ahead and moved Bustleton to the above article, as well as took care of any double-redirects. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 06:46, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. It's more of a challenge for me than speeding articles. Next time you wanna move a page, you could get a better response at the requested moves page. --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 06:57, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Pennsylvania Foods edit
Life is too short and the day is too long. Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, and never miss an opportunity to grab something good to eat, an opportunity to love someone, an opportunity to take a nap, or an opportunity to laugh. Falling asleep while laughing over breakfast in bed with your lover would be the ultimate, eh? Yes, I engage in jest on Talk pages. It's hard enough avoiding it in the articles.... ClairSamoht 08:37, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
NI footy clubs edits edit
Hi there. I was wondering why you thought it was necessary to remove categories Category:Northern Irish football clubs and Category:Sport in Northern Ireland on the club pages. I can understand removing the euro-footy stubs, but I don't understand the category removals. I've no objection to it of course, if there is a reasonable explaination. :)
PS. Apologies for putting the warning in the wrong place. --Mal 22:08, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I understand about the categories now. Thank you. But two things about them. Firstly: are you sure they work properly, given the top-level category use only? And secondly - I created that other Category for a reason. I can't remember exactly the reason, but I think there was something that wasn't working regarding sub-cats, and so I needed to create that cat for it to work. Also, I think the category "Northern Irish" is more in keeping with the "English" and "Scottish" equivalent categories.. and opposed to the existing "Northern Ireland" and non-existant "England" and "Scotland" etc. --Mal 19:03, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice Boothy - I'll propose the cfr then instead. --Mal 13:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah it iwll take a day or to to go threw, and the change so only be done to the template so, hopefully, the change on all of the related articls should be automatic, if not and i dont catch it before you, just let me know. I am guessing you dont have a problem with the Sport in cat beeing taken out of the article it on, i'll hold off removing it for now. I might in the mean time, depening on what else i get caught up in, change the stubs over from uefa to ni. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 06:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
No probs. Regarding the Sport cat - as long as the football clubs somehow get included in the category, I'm sure there is no problem. All I was wanting to do was to ensure that all the categories that are relevent point to the NI footy clubs.. for people that might want to look up information about them. Maybe you should change the articles and test out the cats to see. I'll continue adding info to the clubs when I get the time anyway. Cheers. --Mal 13:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
- FYI: I just happened to look to see why the cat had not had a rename yet, and just as i though some people are rasing a stink about it. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 08:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Yup Boothy - I've made some comments. I can't see that there is any valid objection, though we have one person (from New Zealand I think) objecting anyway. Feel free to add to the discussion and vote if you like. --Mal 11:06, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Re: Your Comment edit
Actually, I did a few months ago, but you wouldn't remember that considering your impressive record. I'm fairly honored, you've become legendary for your rudeness(you've become a meme on here), and you're saying i'm rude. Thank you, you just made me smile :-) Karmafist 23:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Correction edit
Nope, i'm just rude to rude people. It's a slight weakness, but i've seen worse ;-) Have a nice day, bud. Karmafist 23:41, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- No, actually i'm following the spirit of Esperanza to the letter. We're about niceness, and I try my best to defend niceness from its' enemies, and with your reputation, i'd say you fit into that category, but it's not too late. You can always change. Anyone can change and become a better person. Karmafist 23:48, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Well... edit
Just look above. I thanked you first off, then I wished you a nice day, then I offered to help you, and all of this from a statement of an accepted opinion -- you are renowned for being rude and obstinent on Wikipedia. And in return, you troll, and yet i'm still not angry at you. Hell, like I said before, if anything, i'm honored by your trolling, usually you don't talk to people at all. I must be worth your time since you keep on talking to me. Hold on, be right back. Karmafist 23:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Close, But No Cigar edit
I think responding to you stopped me just enough to prevent me from reaching my goal of 1,000 edits this wikiday(7:05 where I am), then again, I did have almost zero edits last night. However, since you enjoy making people feel bad, and I enjoy making people happy(which in your case would be making someone feel bad), you can take credit for me not reaching that plateau if you'd like. I personally think 819 edits in one day is fairly impressive regardless, and there'll always be more days, plus giving you credit for sabotaging me is a good deed in itself(per the above), so the karma's building up for me. The only way it could be better is if you opposed my re-rfa like you always do, then people would say "Well, if Boothy hates him, he can't be all that bad." Then again, there is a better way of going through live than the path you've taken, in my opinion. But to each their own. I'll be around if you want to try a different way of doing things. Karmafist 00:08, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
You might want to keep an eye on Ulster (disambiguation) Jonto is trying to push the Northern Ireland = Ulster POV on it. *sigh* These friggin' Northerners and their defenders. If it isn't Lapsed Pacifist and republicans pushing Six Counties it is Jonto et al pushing Ulster. Zeech. Now I know why a Fianna Fáil TD joked about physically cutting the North off from the rest of the island, letting it float away and then letting NATO use it for target practice. lol Both sides and their POV-pushing are right pain in the bum. FearÉIREANN
\(caint) 00:52, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
NPA violation on Karmafist edit
I am blocking you for three hours for calling Karmafist a jerk on his Talk page[1], in violation of WP:NPA. I am also blocking Karmafist for three hours for calling you a jerk. Please refrain from name calling, and try to keep it civil. Thank you. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 01:04, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the heads-up edit
I appreciate the perspective, hopefully we can all become more flexible over time (unlike real life). Cheers, Haiduc 12:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Blocks edit
Well, I was about to put a 48 hour block on you and Evrik, but as luck would have it, the blocking function stopped working! I left this message here for the rationale. See this: [2] - I would like to see the edit warring stop, but it's probably not for me to decide that. If it still doesn't work, well, I will step aside and do something else. I've done all I can. --HappyCamper 13:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
- Couldn't have said it any better myself - [3] - as I told Evrik, I think I'm going to move on to something else. Articles, and templates (like the ones on my user page). You seem to be very good at making the latter, so I might come back for some help. --HappyCamper 13:06, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
Fairmount Water Works edit
Hi Boothy,
you wrote:
- You move the article on the Fairmount Water Works into Category:Water management authorities, the problem is, based upon the Water works themselve and the other articles in the category, it not management authority, the authority was the City of Philadelphia Water Department (PWD). The works were, as they are no longer used in the fuction, as a kinda distrubution system, but i could not find a category that would best to place it in. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:48, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Fair point. However, I donn't think it belonged in Category:Water, so Category:Water management authorities seemed better. I think sometimes categorization has to be a "best fit" approach rather than a "perfect fit" approach. If you can think of a better category, that's okay with me. Cheers, Singkong2005 00:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
deleted image policy edit
please come join the debate on image policy Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ta bu shi da yu 2 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk • contribs) .
Dont be bullied, if you don't stand up they win by default. So where you from? New Jersey here. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 05:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Banning? edit
Boothy443, I read your request that IP address 138.67.56.42 stop vandalizing pages. I'm sorry to tell you that this address belongs to a public computer in the Colorado School of Mines's Arthur Lakes library. I don't know who was vandalizing pages, but your threat of discipline won't have much effect on them; this room alone has ten other computers, so your best bet is that the user immediately feels (felt) sorry.
(I hardly ever edit pages at all, except for proofreading- which reminds me; there's a greengrocer's apostrophe in the "Film" article. I'll go fix that now.)
Templates edit
Thanks Boothy, I appreciate that. Well, it will be a bit before I get a chance to sit down and make my own templates. For the moment, I wonder if you know of any other alternatives to Template:ExampleSidebar and Template:MetaSidebar? I first saw these in quadratic equation, and they seem to be a bit clumsy to use. --HappyCamper 17:45, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
PA political articles edit
Thanks for the invitation. No promises, but I'll try to take a look at the Frank Rizzo article. John Broughton 17:04, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
GAA Reply edit
In reply too your comments , i agree 100% , get the ball rollings and see if we can gather more users over time would seem to be the best course. Being new to wiki i let you handle setting up the project but any help you need just give me a shout and i'll try to help (Gnevin 19:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC))
- Also having review some of Ecorry contibs , he has had a negivate impact on most articial he posts in the Galway GAA being a prime example ( very poor, full of pov and relivance issues), is thier any attack we can take to against this user? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gnevin (talk • contribs) .
Yeah i agree Project wiki gaelic games is the best calling it gaa would focus on the organisation too much and other aspects wouldnt fit well with that such as the gpa which isnt a gaa organisation , Gaelic Games is very multi-pronged yet clear enough to give a overview of the project .(Gnevin 18:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC))
Have posted 3 times on ecorry's talk page with out reply , it took me over an hour to fix the kildare clubs and will take a other few hours to remove the RIC comments and grounds in the infobox but the general standard of his comments is terrible lacking wiki standards in anyway and often confusing . Is their any way to stop him ? (Gnevin 13:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC))
- look at this page for example , Suncroft_GAA it is unreadible , the gaelic football section starts mid sentence (Gnevin 13:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC))
- Ecorry seems to be inactive since the 6th , perhaps he has run out of txt to dump . Anyway will keep an eye on him . How is the project coming along ? (Gnevin 14:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC))
Well? edit
Are you interested in or know anyone who is interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Dinosaurs? Spawn Man 08:12, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
- Fine...I'll just hate you forever you big meany meany swell of keeny!!! :) Spawn Man 08:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC). BTW, Is boothy a girl or boy name?
- It was a joke you know... You know, I was the one who stood up for you against BDAbrahsom when he attacked you for not supporting anything. I convinced him that you supported stuff too. But anyway.... Spawn Man 08:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC). BTW, Boothy sounds too feminine to be a boy's username, so I'm guessing you're a girl... A name like Rachael or Bethany....
Psst edit
Check out this page. Pass it along. Nudge nudge. -- evrik 20:03, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Evil Lackie edit
Hah, thanks for the laugh! South Philly 04:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't know either. Some of his oldest edits were too complicated to fix because of subsequent edits. I think Orange Institution was the chief one like that. -Will Beback 05:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
WildIrishman edit
Cheers Boothy. I'm a bit busy with specific projects at the minute to be active about this person .. and I haven't looked at enough of his edits to know if what you're saying is true. But certainly, if he is guilty of half the things you say he is, he could be considered a Vandal. Changing others' comments is NOT on. On a personal level, I don't think that every article needs the Irish translation, but on the other hand, most of them should have it. To remove them just because they happen to be there is another no-no. When I get the chance, I'll start to watch him though. Cheers. --Mal 17:00, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Greetings edit
Greetings. --Bhadani 10:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Boothy443 on my page is a real reason for celebration - so I am going out for 2 hours to enjoy my SUNDAY. By the way, from time to time, I have done minor edits to your page to give you invisible messages: practical jokes.
- it is holi-mood in North India, though I am in South India - no Holi this side. --Bhadani 10:21, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Daystar (hacker culture) is at AfD. NickelShoe 22:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Gaelic Games edit
Thanks for the message, would be willing to help on the project whenever I can, any idea on how many people are involved as yet? -- Tiocfaídh Ár Lá! 16:48, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
Helpme request edit
I noticed your request for help. You can ask questions here and I will try to find an answer. Please note that this service is targeted at new users.--Commander Keane 07:11, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I just need some one to undo a a cut and paste move that another user did, and then redo the move, i dont have any problem with the rename, as the artle is now useing the correct name, i just have a problem with the process. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I'll need the name of the articles involved in order to fix it up.--Commander Keane 07:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Leinster Senior Cup (rugby) is the orgin (currently a redirect), Leinster Schools Senior Cup is where is was cut and pasted to, and then it needs to be. Dont worrie about the other redirects and such, i'll fix them. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 07:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, it's sorted out now. Next time you can request this at WP:SPLICE. Have a nice day! --Commander Keane 07:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Gaelic edit
Hi there Boothy443. I don't mind helping out with Gaelic Games.
This is my expertise: Westmeath, University GAA
This is not my expertise: Editing Wikipages!
I run a hurling and gaelic football team so I have a lot of the web links for info sources etc bookmarked
Maurice —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gael-wh (talk • contribs)
Hi Booth. User:Niall123 here. I tell you I really don't have enough time to add in for this Gaelic Games drive. I'll keep popping in now and then though.
The lead picture was taken by me in 2004 when it was still the MCI Center (the "MCI" on the sign is even clearly visible). I think the image caption should note this, but I'm at a loss right now as to how to clarify this without being confusing or awkward. Care to take a stab at it? Postdlf 02:21, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Your reverts edit
Hey, these two reverts weren't exactly helpful. =) I provided a link to my explanation in both edit summaries, please read it over for my reasoning. Also note that my edits did not modify the "format" of the templates (that is, how they appear when used; at least it shouldn't have affected their appearance; if it did, let me know and I'll try and figure out what went wrong).
But it's really very important we get away from using hiddenStructure: my intent is to have it removed from MediaWiki:Common.css as soon as it's no longer used. Let me know if there's anything else I can explain or help with. —Locke Cole • t • c 05:27, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- With all due respect, Wikipedia accessibility trumps any concern over readability of template code. Further, this is hardly a "personal crusade"; a number of editors have agreed that using hiddenStructure is a bad idea (a blind Wikipedian has left a comment as recently as January stating that hiddenStructure (and more generally, "CSS hacks") should not be used; there's a diff link at the bottom of User:Locke Cole/Don't use hiddenStructure if you don't believe me). That it is a personal subpage and not a Wikipedia page is irrelevant: I have no intention of making this a policy because it will inevitably be a shortlived one (as soon as hiddenStructure is out of use, it will be removed as quickly as possible from MediaWiki:Common.css). Another reason I made it a userspace page was because I wanted to avoid repeating the same statement on Template talk pages. The developers have already said that they plan on adding conditional syntax to MediaWiki (Brion VIBBER, lead developer of MediaWiki, has said this on WT:AUM). Brion also said that hiddenStructure is bad (again, see quote/diff on my userspace page). So as you can see, there's nothing to talk to the developers about: they'll get conditionals implemented as soon as they can, but they've also said hiddenStructure is awful and shouldn't be used.
- Finally, regarding your first comment about the lack of discussion, I have two things to say to you: 1) There has been discussion about this, and most people who have participated agree that hiddenStructure is bad and should not be used when there are methods available to reach the same results (and keep Wikipedia accessible to the disabled). 2) This is a Wiki, not everything requires discussion (especially when it's a minor change like this).
- Please let me know if there's anything else I can explain for you. —Locke Cole • t • c 06:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- BTW, I want to apologize if it seems like I'm trying to force anything. As you may or may not have noticed, I haven't reverted you (nor will I). I leave the choice up to you (or another editor, if they choose to intervene) on this entirely. —Locke Cole • t • c 06:42, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- I've done my best to explain it, I'm sorry I haven't convinced you. I did want to correct you though: the developers did not create hiddenStructure. It was created by one editor, and a sysop added it to MediaWiki:Common.css with (as far as I know) no discussion. The developers generally don't force things, but rather leave it to the editors of the Wiki to sort out. Now whether you believe myself and a number of other editors constitutes "sorting it out" is up to you. As far as it being a "crusade", I reject that: I'm just trying to move away from it as quickly as possible for the reasons I've stated (it negatively impacts disabled readers, and it negatively impacts Wikipedia). For what it's worth, I've "fixed" something like 50+ templates and the two involving you are the only ones I've met any significant resistance with. As I said above, the choice is yours, I will not revert war with you over it. —Locke Cole • t • c 09:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
IRA edit
You're dead right. The browser on one of the computers I use can't handle articles over 32k or so. re the vandalism, the user has a history of vandalism and when I looked up Finbarr Galivan, I couldn't find them name anywhere, so I presumed he was ust messing. Thanks for the cleanup. Jdorney 10:51, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
A final decision has been made in the above arbitration case, and it has been closed.
For the Arbitration committee. ---Tony Sidaway 16:55, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Re: Template Assistance requested edit
Hi Boothy443. What are you looking for in particular? I'm pretty good with Wikipedia's templates and web programming. ~MDD4696 02:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- I've found a number of coding errors in both {{Infobox Irish Place}} and {{Infobox U.S. City}}. I might be able to hack a fix in there, but I'd rather recode the templates just to make them cleaner and easier to understand. I don't mind doing that, but I'm busy tonight so it may take a few days. In the mean time, you could read about CSS positioning and the box model if you'd like to learn more about working with CSS. ~MDD4696 02:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- You can see how it's coming along at User:Mdd4696/Sandbox and User:Mdd4696/Playground. ~MDD4696 03:46, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- The template is finished; take a look at User:Mdd4696/Playground and User:Mdd4696/Sandbox. The reason the marker was off was because of a stupid IE bug--the size of the DIV depended on the size of its font-size attribute! I'll put the new code up with your OK. ~MDD4696 00:11, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- I've addressed some of your concerns: the width is fixed, I added the website spacer line, and the population now functions correctly (if any one of the three population variables is present, it will be displayed). However, I'm not sure what you mean by "problems with the background color" for the statistics table. Right now it looks exactly the same as the old infobox, and there shouldn't be any issues if we wanted to change the background colors.
- Also, I chose to use the conditional templates because they are easier to read and it will be easier to replace them when the native MediaWiki code is added. I don't see any problems using them... if the template needs to be changed and they act quirky, just let me know and we can find a solution. Hiddenstructure is a horrible, horrible hack--because of the way it works, we have no idea if it will work in browsers that we haven't tested. ~MDD4696 19:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like Tim Starling has written some parsing code that will replace {{qif}}, so we can soon get rid of that clunky template from the infobox. ~MDD4696 16:38, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Map it edit
I just made a change to the WikiProject_Philadelphia. I think the mapit template, {{Mapit-US-hoodscale|39.8933|-75.2089}} is too cool and should be used on the neighborhood and building pages. --evrik 19:50, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
DE edit
Yup. Feel free to comment on RFC page. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Football Kit edit
It doesn't show the image neither in the table on the template page nor in the team page. CapPixel 09:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks! :) CapPixel 09:43, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Beer cats & kittens edit
It has been suggested by User:BrianSmithson that the Beer and brewery categories should be renamed. The proposal has been supported by User:Syrthiss, and supported and expanded by myself. The notion is that the regional categories should follow the format of "Beer and breweries in Africa" /Europe/Asia/North America/South America/Oceania. "Brewers and breweries" could also be renamed "Beer and breweries by region". And all the countries should also be renamed (and merged if needed) as, for example, "Beer and breweries of Germany", "Beer and breweries of Britain", "Beer and breweries of Poland". The word in each case would be beer rather than beers to allow for general articles on beer culture in each region as well as individual beers.
Comments, suggestions, objections, free beer and simple votes to Wiki Beer Project SilkTork 15:26, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Carrollton Viaduct edit
I just started an article for the Carrollton Viaduct, and noticed that your to-do page links to it. Feel free to improve the article or nominate it for "Did You Know?" on the main page and/or trains portal. — Eoghanacht talk 21:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding that info. I used the Johns Hopkins reference and added the "world's oldest" statement to the article. — Eoghanacht talk 12:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
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