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Theen language

Hi. Could you provide a reference for the location and population? Thanks. — kwami (talk) 02:46, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Here it is. I couldn't figure out how to enter that correctly on Wikipedia, so I left it out yesturday.

Proschan, Frank. 1996. A Survey of Khmuic and Palaungic Languages in Laos and Vietnam. Pan-Asiatic Linguistics, 3: 895-919.Bluethailand (talk) 08:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Same w Mondzi language. Just follow what I'm doing for Theen.

Oh, if Theen is spoken in both countries, pls remove the tag. — kwami (talk) 17:18, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey, if you want to help us out, can you ID the red-linked language names in the Cambodian census here? I've done what I could (e.g. Por = Pear), but some of the others seem pretty obscure. We'll want to know what they are, though, for the next census. If you can ID any, just click on the red link and create a redirect to the appropriate WP article. Then, when someone copies the info from the next census, all they'll have to do is put brackets around the names, and the reader will be taken to the correct articles. — kwami (talk) 17:25, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Don't worry about citing the location of Theen. I just wanted your confirmation that's what the ref said. The "ref" field in the info box is specifically for the population (as is the date field), because that's the most critical element. (It's what people most often falsify.) If you do want to repeat a reference, you can use the 'ref name=x' coding I added to the end of the main text. (Again, not necessary here.) — kwami (talk) 16:49, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

list of Endangered languages in Asia

• Some time in the next week or so I'm gonna update that whole page. Maybe tomorrow, if I have time. • Serviceable†Villain 11:55, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Vitality

Hi. Ethnologue is not a RS for language vitality. (E.g. at Pyen language.) If Ethn. contradicts a source on the language, IMO we should ignore Ethn. altogether.

The recent Rutger's class project on endangered languages linked to a site evaluating the Ethn. classification that estimates a confidence value. E.g., the language is "vital", with a 20% confidence that "vital" is the correct category. Ethn. doesn't do that: they just say "vital" as if they knew, and they often don't have the data to know. — kwami (talk) 02:16, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Kwami, a reliable source on Pyen told me the vitality is high, and said the (Shintani 2009) citation is wrong. I wanted to cite the Ethnolouge's vitality for Pyen as a second opinion to off set Shintani 2009.Bluethailand (talk) 05:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Is that not something you can cite directly? Or could you maybe remove the comment from Shintani, maybe with a comment in the html coding that it's incorrect? We have a proposal now to add the Ethnologue endangerment scale to the infobox, but many of their assessments are clearly unreliable, and I wouldn't wan to encourage their use. — kwami (talk) 20:56, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

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