User talk:Biruitorul/Archive6

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{{bd-blanked}} follows Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G7: by the author and main content creator is very speedy (by my experience, generally within the hour). If there is a sole contributor, s/he doesn't even have to provide a reason. This is one of the most uncontroversial. Dc76\^talk 01:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

To simplify matters (not to rush anything, but to set aside things that were already clarified or those that could wait longer), I would like to modify my proposal to fit better with the minimalistic approach of Dahn. I would appreciate your troubleshooting. Feel free to edit/comment within the proposal itself, e.g. add a cat that you think I missed, or comment after an unnecessary cat. Allow me to request (from everybody) that we allow everyone interested time to think about it. Thank you very much for consideration of my proposal. Dc76\^talk 12:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

What do you think: should I maybe just place Category:Moesia as a subcat? What is exactly Moesia? Was is known by this name before the Romans? Greek colonies is what puzzles me. Dc76\^talk 14:05, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I've been watching the conversation from the sidelines for a bit. This might be a good time to lobby for some improvements in WP. For example, you should be able to mark an article as "Category:Romania" and "Category:1890s" and not have to do "Category:Romania 1890s". What's really needed is a way for someone to enter two categories in a search and come up with the "cross" of the two. Doing "crossings" manually is an unmanageable task, and WP is a database after all. If that's not possible (>1 category lookup) owing to concerns regarding query overhead, then it might be worth investing in a bot to create two-deep category cross-references, for example:

• list of categories, "A"
• list of categories, "B"
• for each one of categories "A" generate/insert in article category "A" + each member of categories "B"

That would take care of the timeline (decades) ones, which appears to be the bulk at this point. You could then focus more on categories relating to eras, cultural and political movements, and all, which should be the primary use of categories. Wţhile uncontroversial to the point of being sterile, I'm not sure that "Romania in decade XYZ" has a lot of value other than (hopefully also by bot!) to generate a "timeline of Romania."

   I'm a "computer professional" from the days that one actually had to know something about computers to program them. As it currently stands, it's an enormous manual effort which I think would be better suited to automated tools. VЄСRUМВА [TALK] 17:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

On the actual question, it probably doesn't make sense for ancient (or nearly) Greek items associated with the territory of today's Romania to be subcats of Romania. Category-wise, I personally think "Romania" should "start" at some point where an ethno-linguistic "critical mass" of identifiably Romanian people are associated with an area of settlement roughly the territory of today's Romania. This view might not be suitably "ancient" enough for some. (Thinking of the howls of displeasure which would result under similar circumstances, for example, editors linking Illyrians and Albanians, who I would expect would take "Category:Albania" back to the Greek colonies.) Just my thoughts. VЄСRUМВА [TALK] 17:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)\

Based on what articles are part of the series "History of Romania" it may be necessary to be more inclusive going back in the timeline. (!) WEEKEND WIKIBREAK, REALLY! VЄСRUМВА [TALK] 20:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

My chance to catch up

All right now, where were we?

Well, if that weren't a borrowed camera and I'd be out in Argeş more often, you bet. It's funny: I've been all around Câmpulung at various intervals, but I've never actually been in Câmpulung. For Piatra(-)Neamţ, I don't know what to tell you, other than that the encyclopedic dictionary too favors no hyphen. I think we should definitely have both variants in the lead, and, incidentally, how about also mentioning that the Neamţ part is just a modern attribute to distinguish it from others, and that the town (like its namesakes) is just Piatra in various references/contexts? (Btw, what's with the lks to disambig in the German version? So many issues, so little time...)

Pleşiţă - covered, Maya - hand me the blowtorch, Deejay - I'm really leaning toward hand me the blowtorch on this one as well, and hey, the creator is no longer here to oppose :). Not a good criterion in itself, obviously, but since Deejay has a very slim claim to notability, the one major problem is sorted. I remember I actually stated that the article may be below GNG as I commented on the DYK hook, but damn their musician guidelines and whatever they may also say. The documentary films - they look like they're non notable, all of them, but I admit I didn't scour the net for more; it's something else I would have to be more familiar with. Some of the other articles got changed, some no longer exist. The Armenians articles: it would require a frontal, holistic approach to the matter, but you are obviously right about such stuff being intolerable. Not to mention unreadable.

On the Orthodox Church, let me meet you halfway: there is much to admire about the Church today. Since Daniel rose to the position, it's finally integrating Romanian society instead of working from above and beyond it, and it's getting rid of at least some of the moral and political ambiguities made famous under Teoctist. Sure, this could be attributed more than anything to the new "business-friendly" attitude, but whatever works.

And, yes, there's a lot to be revered in the pre-20th century past, but not all of it is attributable to the institution - it was more of a question of what they didn't remove from their discourse than one of what they endorsed. The since-forgotten and entirely respectable (even thrilling) image of the 16th-18th century monks and theologians who were highly aware of the wider world, who sought to make a selection from all subtle ideas about God and religion, coming to them from Protestantism, from the Jesuits, from heterodox Islam and even from Freemasonry, is something that no intelligent person should dismiss. But the signs were around even then: there is this eternal ambiguity about collective salvation in Orthodoxy, which even then prompted the Church authorities to fall for the notion that God will only save "his" people (which formed the basis for the "God will save his nation" discourse that degenerated into...). And, as an institution of sorts, the Church not only tolerated slavery, but turned itself into the largest slave owner, and even gave ideological endorsement to the notion that those whom it enslaved were neither Christians nor people. I am not as obtuse as not to place that in context, or to believe that their attitude was fanaticism (when it was in fact intellectual indolence), but it stains the overall image as far back as that time.

And the record on the Jews: you're right, it was not that bad. And even later the Church's attitude was not as bad as that of its most devout congregations - here too, I suppose, there was an issue of ambiguity more than complicity (and the real problem is that, in even later decades, the Church persisted in that ambiguity beyond all the limits of decency). But, getting back to the pre-1900 era, yes and no. They had a better record to the measure where Romanian society had a better record - the Church was more likely permeated by antisemitic discourse as society was, with the differences I alluded to (the distance taken from direct instigation, the occasional moral authority intervening to condemn violence, the essential plurality of voices within the institution). If their more modern record is, in my opinion, worse than that of the Catholic Church and most Protestant denominations, it's because the others were less likely to fall for Leviathan's courtship. Mutatis mutandis. (And, of course, figures such as Sandu Tudor and, with all his stranger aspects, Steinhardt, are the solar narrative here, and they do a good job of moving Orthodox history beyond Crainic and the boys in green. And the picture is completed by Galaction and, why not, Iustinian, whose choices were opposed to in theory but ultimately not that different from your average Guardist.)

About the Gardianul article, I'd avoid citing it - though I must say it's a weird-ass case. A funny thing of the same nature almost happened to me right around the time you were posting that: I had been wanting to see about improving Andrei Oişteanu and see about better sourcing of the info added there by... well, probably by Mr. Oişteanu himself (nothing bad about the info, just very hard to retrieve). I had purchased an issue of Dilemateca and stumbled on an interview with him (a very interesting one, I might add). What they do on Dilemateca is to include this short resume on the subject of the article, and this one mentioned all the poorly cited data. So I thought: "yay, source". But (you guessed it) it ended with the line preluat de la wikipedia.org... (Which also reminds me of that Ion Vianu article, which I did cite and approached as you advised me to, only as part of the entire book were it was republished, and not yet in that article. Yes, I actually bought it.)

I'm not entirely sure about how Timofte should be categorized. Your solution is as good as any, but the ambiguity is there. He would probably be under "police generals" or something, except the terminology is flawed and the posts no longer exist (I don't remember: was it still militarized in 2001? if no, then perhaps he is a Gendarmes general?).

As for Târgu Mureş and Prime Minister - too much inanity for me to enjoy dealing with them right away. The latter case especially so, since the guy is likely not to get the rules and guidelines - one such case just ended dramatically, let me enjoy the quiet before I jump in again :). Dahn (talk) 03:49, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Btw, I just had a mighty idea. You remember when I mentioned Gallica as a resource? We still haven't uploaded from these (the main reason being that I got a bit tired by all the incompetence and chaos on commons), but some just scream pick me, pick me! But that's not it: if we use crops of the old and, very, very detailed maps out there, we've got ourselves free illustrations for every locality in Romania (and Moldova?). I tried my hand at this with Piteşti, tell me if you like the results. Btw, the Cantacuzino map should be great for historical images on all Wallachian counties too - note the borders. Oh, one more thing: if you like the concept and opt for it, consider uploading the images with vector extensions - jpeg tends to blur them. Dahn (talk) 09:55, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Weeeeell, it's high time I descended from the ivory tower. I'm only up there because I'm cooking something big - still not the "big thing" I mentioned before, just something in a constellation, but getting there too. It's also why I left the category fixes project hanging.

I'm sorry for not responding on the Fenechiu issue in time - I knew there was no way I could look into it right then, and in any case those two are great little articles. And bringing the deals out into the open has its poetic justice perks, as a certain Mr. Chireac found out just last week... kudos on that too - let the people know something beyond the tiresome "TB is a populist, yellow-blue is Euro-friendly, noi vrem respect" BS that's got its foot in the door here. (Btw, did you happen to notice how they just today resurrected Gaetan, the "vitriolic indictment" man, to deter attention from the guys who want to get a hold of Berceanu's testicles? And, speaking of Berceanu's testicles, time it made it into the article on him?)

Just blowing off some steam, for now at least. Let's just say they won't need an autocar to get me to the voting section... I'll be first in line.

1. Let me start with the thread you mention last in that section: I never let myself forget it, as it is one of the most beautiful samples of Dunning–Kruger's (before you ask, I didn't know anything about this effect - but got to it through this lovely essay). It's also where that one guy began with his demagoguery aimed my way (and, in that case, your way). And the other participants... thank God we nemernici aren't all as articulate and intelligent as those guys are. For the cities: I agree with the ranking, but I guess we'll have to wait until some users with the necessary attention span and intelligence start focusing on them one by one. Leaving out Piteşti (noblesse oblige) and Satu Mare (Dr. Jekyll1987 worked there before Mr. Hyde1987 took over), this is exactly what happened on the other ones. The sad part is that other such articles used to look decent, and then got mowed down (I could nominate Sibiu as a prime example). And here's what I find astonishing (did we discuss this before?): there's this guy from Constanţa, who has acquired a good understanding of wikipedia rules the hard way (but still), who writes decently, who manifestly enjoys writing, and who leave the Constanţa article crumble into dust before touching it. Feel free to disagree with me, but that guy is by now not on the bad side of WP:COMPETENCE, at the very least.

2. Hm. Alas, Animal X is notable. Ridiculous, but notable. The category is probably overkill. The other ones: I know I've heard of one or two of them, but do they really pass the notability check? And, if we take the spam out, what's left? Would you edit the articles with all the tiresome bio stuffola so as to let others assess the notability? I wouldn't, not for those guys... So I'd rather suggest AfDing them, and let them be created again by someone not in a conflict of interests (I assume that's how they were created in the first place) or, heck, even by someone who is in a conflict of interests but understands the basics of how wikipedia works.

3. I don't usually lol, but here it is: LOL. This is Caracudi style journalism, and, considering that Cezarika is at the other end of it, the emperor is beyond naked. As they say: să se ia de gât. On the other hand, while alarming, it's probably not dangerous, as long as the journalists themselves keep it under control. On some level, they validate it by publishing it, and take responsibility for it, so it does become "theirs". Plus: them publishing info sourced from Cezarika's pockets may be idiotic, but it's not the least of problems the press has - I'd rather have them citing wikipedia than claiming credibility with wave after wave of calumny and purposeful misinformation ("TB and Hayssam in cahoots" etc). Which they still do, and which we quote, and which we'll have to always balance out - because every day is a new scandal in this country, and because editorial control is a fiction in so many Romanian newspapers. Well, there is control, but it's not editorial...

4. We are in agreement. However, a long time ago I was reading this book (I completely forgot its title), part of which was about how respected Orthodox theologians in Moldavia and Wallachia constantly gave credit to the fallacy (and heresy, I do believe) of impersonal salvation/collective responsibility. The author, if I recall correctly, was theorizing that, even though the practice was toned down by the 1800s, it remained an essential aspect of how the multitudes and the more silent of clergymen relate to the world. Get that in the mix with the ambiguous attitudes toward the state, and the risk of a serious crisis is there. Plus, it's on our walls :).

5. As above. And again: congrats. Dahn (talk) 15:58, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Since we last talked, I managed to ruin and restore back to health my poor computer, with the added bonus that I seem to have lost most of what I was working on for wiki... I really have to start saving my drafts into the sandboxes. There is a slim chance that I didn't, hoping against hope.

So I have to catch up and sob over this, but for now it's celebration time. Dahn (talk) 12:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Biruitorul, wouldn't this be an interesting oportunity to get involved considering your interest in Romania's involvement in WWI? There are many things uncovered by the english wiki regarding this at the moment. I know that finding reliable sources about this issue is very difficult, but at this contest you get as well points for simply creating an article (even stubs). We are starting the contest this evening (after a postponement of 20-hours due to a lack of participants) and feel free to join it if interested! Your participation would be much appreciated! Best, --Eurocopter (talk) 14:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Relu Fenechiu

On November 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Relu Fenechiu, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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DYK for Tudor Chiuariu

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Sensul iubirii

HI. We have no articles about Romanian poetry. Can you expand this? Himalayan 16:10, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Stubs

If you must persist on creating unreferenced one liners without sources or infoboxes please can you at least take a minute or two to list the communes under the district article or/and create a nav template to connect them together. Otherwise without being connected its basically ensuring that they will remain sub stubs for eternity. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 22:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

OK that's cool but I really do hope there is population or some data available for these communes... I am still waiting for Kotniski also to attend to the Romanian communes. If he doesn't I'll make another manual on them. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 11:04, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammed Sami Abugoush

The author Diamondexpert (talk · contribs) re-created this article as just a {{hangon}} tag; I deleted it G4 and he immediately re-created it. So I have create-protected it for a day, and pointed him to you and to DRV. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:12, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

• Apologies, I misread the AfD and thought you were the closing admin. Ignore the above, except for information. JohnCD (talk) 16:06, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Please show a sound reason or revert them.

Hi Biruitorul,

You seem to move three articles and changed the titles of two templates all of which are created by me. OK, I know the rules, all users can edit. But of course, there must be a reason or else (if possible) a mutual understanding to move or to change. (After all, there was no error in the encyclopaedic stuff.) For example, just a few days ago, I saw a flaw in the name of one article and I sent messages to the three editors of the article to warn them. In your case however, you have made all the moves in just several minutes without giving any reason and trying to reach me. (Certainly the exclamations Stop conflacting ! and Not the same thing ! are not the reasons). This isn’t exactly what I’d call politeness.

Now for the changes, you may be right in changing the name of battles to battles involving in one article. But what reasons do you have for the other four. In one article and two templates, you have changed the name Ottoman (Turkish) to Ottoman. What is wrong in showing the old and new names together ? And for the last, you have changed the name Treaty of İstanbul to Treaty of Constantinople. Of course, the name involving Constantinople can be linked to the name involving İstanbul. But you have completely moved it. For what reason ?

I’d be glad if you consider to revert some of your changes. Have a good day. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:22, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Marseilles

In a similar vein, you recently (and needlessly) changed the spelling of Marseilles to Marseille. In English (and this is an English-language Wikipedia) both spellings are acceptable, and, in fact, in American English, which I use, Marseilles seems to be more widely used. This seems like an extraordinary waste of time for someone who is a good editor. Why not tackle some of the really glaring things that need your help, and leave the spellings variations alone?? Especially when both spellings are acceptable? Auntieruth55 (talk) 20:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

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Re : Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern European mailing list

This arbitration case has been closed, and the final decision may be viewed at the link above.

• User:Piotrus resigned the administrator tools during the case proceedings and may only seek to regain adminship by a new request for adminship or by request to the Arbitration Committee.
• User:Piotrus is banned for three months. At the conclusion of his ban, a one year topic ban on articles about Eastern Europe, their talk pages, and any related process discussion, widely construed, shall take effect.
• User:Digwuren is banned for one year. He is directed to edit Wikipedia from only a single user account, and advise the Arbitration Committee of the name of the account that he will use. Should he not advise the committee by the end of the one year ban, he will remain indefinitely banned until a single account is chosen.
• User:Digwuren is placed on a one year topic ban on articles about Eastern Europe, their talk pages, and any related process discussion, widely construed. This shall take effect following the expiration of both above mentioned bans.
• The following users are topic banned from articles about Eastern Europe, their associated talk pages, and any process discussion about same, widely construed, for one year:

• User:Biruitorul, User:Dc76, User:Martintg, User:Miacek, User:Radeksz, User:Vecrumba, User:Tymek

• User:Jacurek is topic banned from articles about Eastern Europe, their associated talk pages, and any process discussion about same, widely construed, for six months.
• User:Tymek is strongly admonished for having shared his account password. He is directed to keep his account for his own exclusive use, and not to allow any other person to use it under any circumstance.
• The editors sanctioned above (Piotrus, Digwuren, Martintg, Tymek, Jacurek, Radeksz, Dc76, Vecrumba, Biruitorul, Miacek) are prohibited from commenting on or unnecessarily interacting with Russavia on any page of Wikipedia, except for purposes of legitimate and necessary dispute resolution.
• All the participants to the mailing list are strongly admonished against coordinating on-wiki behavior off-wiki and directed to keep discussion of editing and dispute resolution strictly on wiki and in public. All editors are reminded that the editorial process and dispute resolution must take place on Wikipedia itself, using the article talk pages and project space for this purpose. No discussion held off-wiki can lead to a valid consensus, the basis of our editorial process. Off-wiki coordination is likely to lead to echo chambers where there is a false appearance of neutrality and consensus.

For the Arbitration Committee, Mailer Diablo 17:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC) - Discuss this

Merry Christmas to you too! :) Let me guess, those "anglo-american leftist" and that other "mafia" again? Vezi la ce te aduce ura faţă de aproape? Dacă nu umblai să mă elimini acum erai bine mersi... şi acum chiar nu sunt eu de vină, după cum ai observat m-am ţinut departe de proceduri. Şi ca să-ţi întorc favorul de acum 2 ani: Ion: Erou!, Corneliu: Erou! Mircea şi Dan: Eroi! Trăiască Frontul! ;).Anonimu (talk) 20:52, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Anonimu if you don't keep your mouth shut you might find yourself in a difficult situation as well. This type of irony is unnacceptable and could be considered harassment especially when someone is under sanctions and might be demoralized. All in all, Biru was a good editor and your dissagreements with him were caused by opinion differences. Just because Biru won't be around in the near future does not mean that you'll roll over everything around here. --Eurocopter (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I was invited here, so I'm not harassing nobody. It was a tongue-in-cheek reply to a tongue-in-cheek comment (and may make no sense to an outsider). It's not my intention to "roll over" anything Biruitorul has done, this case made me realise that vengeance doesn't bring anything good.Anonimu (talk) 16:59, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Very well, just wanted to warn you so that you'll remain with your feet on the ground. --Eurocopter (talk) 17:07, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

The Radu of Romania article

I see that you reverted my changes to the article in which I removed references to him as a Prince. These references were also absent from the article throughout the summer untill the 6th of December of this year. I simply reverted to the old situation and did so before I requested the move that you oppose. My only agenda in this is the consistency and credibility of this encyclopedia when it comes to the use of royal titles. My opinion is that the title claimed by Radu is usurped. If the move I requested fails, I believe the article should clearly reflect that the title used is not recognised and what the official name of the gentleman involved is. I will refrain from reverting or changing for the coming period however. However after this is done the article should be adapted one way or the other imho. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 20:36, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

'People From...'

Hi Biruitorul - I see you're cleaning up the 'People From...' categories. What is the currently accepted practice for assigning such a category? Just the birthplace? Just the place they are commonly associated with? And are your conventions widely accepted among Wiki editors or is there controversy? I don't have an agenda here, I'm just asking because I've struggled with how to do this myself. Thanks! Cbaer (talk) 11:26, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas

I wish you Merry and Blessed Christmas. Have a great, happy and peaceful time, my friend. I am also sorry how the ArbCom case ended for you. I hope 2010 will be good for you, though, and I wish you will stay with us in next year. - Darwinek (talk) 14:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Argh...

What did they do to you? ONE YEAR?! I have no idea what you wrote in that mailing list, but that seems so excessive it's simply tragic (and yet one more reason to regret having let Anonimu slide with that forum he and his friends were posting on back in the day...) Hope you're okay, and I'm sure that, if they were persuaded to give Anonimu a chance at a comeback (which he is close to usurping, if I'm to be the judge of it), they can surely decrease that absurd topic ban. Until then, I hope you can console yourself by providing this wikiverse with more Boganda-like articles - the Midas touch moves away from Eastern Europe "broadly defined" (grumble-grumble) to Africa. Whatever happens, I shall be awaiting your return with the ardent faith of a Messianist.

I can only hope this decision does not spoil your holidays. Since the cards are already in circulation, and since the next days may turn out to be busy for either one of us, and since I'm neither here nor there at the moment, allow me to jump ahead with a Merry Christmas. Dahn (talk) 15:53, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey man, that forum was public, needed registration (which was open) only for posting new messages, and was nowhere as EEML when it comes to the level of influence on WP (Anittas' rants included). You don't even have to read it, just look through the evidence page. I'm disappointed you cant get over disagreements about the ephemeral political situation.

To B., hope you'll resist temptations to sock (after all, it won't be a full year, at least in your case), and take this opportunity to find new interesting facts about the developing word... true marvels are there waiting to be discovered and made into top WP articles by experienced editors.Anonimu (talk) 16:32, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

It is precisely because I can get over such disagreements that I be posting this here, just like, you may recall, I objected to your block. The reason why I say you're abusing your "parole" has nothing to do with such disagreements, but with what you make of them (that is, your regrettable inability to maintain a standard of civility). And finally: it would be pretty late to debunk your theory about how forums are different by subjecting them to admin scrutiny; as I have said, it was a poor choice not to have done so the moment it caught my eye. Water under the bridge, just please accept my frustration - not because I would want you out, but because we would all be dealing with a different juridical reality. And who knows, perhaps nipping that little club in the bud would have made Biruitorul reconsider joining the cabal...

By the time Biruitorul's topic ban is lifted, I expect the following, the one thing I have been expecting for years now: that he and you and I and whoever else is concerned all accept our differences. If you allow yourself to warn Biruitorul about "sockpuppets", then allow me to state the following: if you for a moment imagine this inaugurates a carte blanche for your special bias, think again. Dahn (talk) 16:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Who knows what would have happened if our disagreement took place before the block offer.... now really, B. archived it, do you want to start again discussing who and how was being uncivil in that specific discussion? They were fundamentally different, and also your timing would have been bad... that forum was active at a time when Bonaparte didn't need a sock to edit, when Romanian history articles where ruled by Dacodava, a time when B. congratulated(!) me for some opinions we both held at the time... things were different back then, and probably if it weren't for Piotrus-1,-2,-3, B. would have no problem now. As I've already said, my only involvement in this arbcom was being a victim, and I haven't write one word on the arbitration pages. Hope this topic ban of B. won't radicalise you (you mentioned a similar thought process in relation to Base's suspension), and you will continue to keep a clear head and you won't slip into unconditional support...

Some differences are harder to accept than others... but probably by now all such differences aren't that relevant for mainspace in our case (or at least I hope so). I rest assured that you'll always be there to censor any failing in my mainspace editing. BTW, no "special bias" from your part, I expect.Anonimu (talk) 18:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Da capo. Happiest New Year, Biru! (I'm counting the days.) Dahn (talk) 21:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I had seen some of that, and I'm still boiling over it at the moment. I want to take this straight to ANI, because it's really disruptive, but I'll reflect about it a bit more early tomorrow and will give him my two cents one way or the other... Dahn (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I know I'm probably not welcome here, but I thought I should inform you that the ArbCom has was willing to grant ban exceptions for working on unreferenced BLPs to Radeksz and Martintg; see announcement. You can almost certainly obtain the same, if you're interested. There's a list of such BLPs at WT:ROMANIA. If you make the request, I'll back you up, saying that there are few editors working on those, which is quite true. Regards, Pcap ping 12:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Truth be told, I was quite dismayed by your baseless and over-the-top charges here. However, it being just after Forgiveness Sunday, I have moved on. I certainly hope the two-line bios of kids who kick around footballs for a living (eg Bruno Costa) get deleted with extreme prejudice. Some of the others are worth saving, so I may take you up on your offer. Best, Biruitorul ^Talk 06:24, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

The Philli-Ro rhetoric wasn't meant as an attack on you. Sorry if you see it that way. LibStar came up with "argumentum ad Birutorum", saying that no sources exist because you would have found them during the previous AfD. His argument was clearly specious because sources had already been presented in the new AfD (by Mandsford and by mr) before LibStar wrote that statement. So, it was just WP:BLUDGEON banter from LibStar to which I replied in the same vein with "argumentum ad banned user" -- the ultimate wikitrump card (just look what happened with User:Haiduc's creations). LibStar didn't deserve any better answer there, although I did indulge him and listed additional sources. Anyway, the topic is rather uninteresting to me, but if someone wants to write about it, I don't see why not since sources exist. The table in Foreign relations of Romania is rather unwieldy for listing heads of state the visits, treaties, economic relations, etc. Pcap ping 00:00, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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I don't care about the citizenship, his ethnic race is Armenian which makes him all of that. What about those Jews. Their citizenship isn't Jewishness or Israeli, they could be American or Russian or others, but their ethnic race is Jewish which makes them a Jewish whatever they are.

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SD women's org in Romania

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Putin off the topic o intrebare, ce faci daca de exemplu articol despre Pamant (planeta) si acuma eu vin cu 1 sursa care zice ca Pamantul ii patrat si normal pentru ca am referinta asa ceva pun si in articol, si tu ai 6 referinte care zic ca pamantul este rotund. Ce sa intampla atunci? Ca nu putem scrie ca Pamantul ii si rotund si patrat dupa unele surse, ii doar una sau alta. Sa spunem ca toate referintele prezentate sunt OK. Cum sa procedeaza in cazuri din astea ? Mersi iadrian (talk) 23:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Mersi pentru raspuns si explicatie. Da, mailul este activ. Dar in cazul care chiar nu pate fii ambele? Si numarul de surse nu conteaza ? De exemlu chiar la Vanu pagina, mai precis, Novi Sad ii capitala lui Voivodina nu centrul administrativ sau nu stiu ce, si asta zice la apsolut tot unde dai peste Novi Sad pe wikipedia, la universitati din Novi Sad, la pagina orasului, la pagina Voivodinei, si eu am cel putin 7 surse oficiale care confirm asta si altcineva are 1 sursa care ii tot oficiala doar ca nui updated dupa constitutia noua si sa tine cu aia , disconsidera toate sursele mele si faptul ca unde dai peste Novi Sad scrie ca ii capitala, sau pe wiki sau pe google, orunde zice la fel. Cand ai timp daca poti sa te bagi sa clarifici problema respectiva pe articol pentru ca eu nu mai stiu ce sa fac. Culmea ii ca am multe surse oficiale, peste tot confirma doar 1 sursa zice altfel si acuma nui asa. In cazul asta nu poate fi si Capitala si centrul administrativ, ii una sau alta pentru ca ii forba despre politica unde exista clar legile si informatile, nui stinta unde exista mai multe teorii. Mersi inca o data pentru raspuns. iadrian (talk) 11:42, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

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Please reformulate the paragraph if you think it's not a neutral point of view, but you can't deny the facts and deny the source. --JackAttackFR (talk) 21:16, 7 February 2010 (UTC) You did nice editing--JackAttackFR (talk) 11:34, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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Roşia Montană

As a speaker of Romanian, would you be able to give me your opinion of this edit? Yilloslime ^T_C 04:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Ping

Hello, my friend. How goes things? I was entirely, but entirely emerged in the real world for a couple of weeks, but I'm now returning to the scene of the crime. And, hey, thanks, you know why ;). I want to kick-start our conversations in this unfortunate interval (I'm still counting each day), and hoping that, despite the elephant in the room that is that unfortunate topic ban, you'll still find a purpose for them. After all, it usually takes us (well, me) a couple of months to start work on any project that we discuss, so we could both pretend this is just that relaxed time of year.

Incidentally, and just to make sure, am I right to assume that there's nothing in the ban stopping you from sandboxing and/or intervening into my sandbox, I mean regardless of topic? No 'by the way...' and no pressure here, just an invitation you're free to reject. This may be a good time for us to sketch out one of those "really big" articles we keep tempting each other with. Carol II, oil industry, Iron Guard... oh, the possibilities. Dahn (talk) 06:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

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Henry Herbert, 7th Earl of Carnarvon

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Hello there!

Unfortunately, I'm terribly late with the wishes, but I do hope you had a pleasant and serene Easter. For various reasons, I was mostly off-wiki these last days, and couldn't reply in time - but I do thank you, and I'm still counting the days till you'd be back for good, in full swing. Make sure you keep in touch even before that moment: it's getting depressingly lonely on our side of the wiki... Dahn (talk) 09:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Is everything alright? I haven't heard from you in a while, and I frankly miss being kept in touch with the things you tend to follow. Could it be that this place is now pwned, and all we get is the renaming of Pakistani provinces? :) Write to me, if there's anything you feel like sharing. I keep myself busy, but it's so not the same... Dahn (talk) 02:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, believe me, the only reason I have not yet replied to your earlier post it's because every time I think of that stupid verdict, my blood curdles. It is proof that there is a safety net in place for all kids of incomptences (and what better proof of that than the "pictures as relations" examples) but we go severe on our best users on minor and unclear transgressions of what is already a stupid enough precedent. My main tactic was to focus on something else entirely and, at least for now, pretend that I don't see the harm that's being done all over the place.

I will get back to you on the earlier issues (allow me just to note that, whatever they lack on rowiki, they now have empiric evidence for the article on Delirul în comuna Racoviţa - that is, provided they go with editing "Anittas style", where wikipedia is a source for wikipedia). For the newer post: I know, but it looks hopeless; unless I postpone, or hope that more users not motivated by fantasy or hidden agendas notice as well, I face the risk of letting the issue absorb me entirely. The only other thing I could face at the moment is getting that one particularly disruptive and persistent user back on my back: he's already "caught my scent" as an enemy of his grand X-Y relations design, and his is the kind of battle method they used in the Convention Nationale or the "all power to the soviets" era. Like the Icar days a l'envers. One can only expect to win if there's a sustained effort, and if one is absolutely sure that the outcome is at least sane. There's no guarantee of that here, and even less so now that you're on Prinkipo! Dahn (talk) 00:34, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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Hanna Instruments

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Napoca

Am vazut ca ai schimbat inapoi pe pagina Clujului, cum ca Napoca ar fi denumirea latina si nu cea daca. Explica-mi si mie de unde si pana unde? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codrinb (talk • contribs) 20:31, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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Multumesc pentru raspuns dar sunt mult inconsistente in argumente cat si in(tre) articole.

Din articolul in limba engleza despre Cluj-Napoca (cel de care vorbim): Possible etymologies for Napoca or Napuca include the name of some Dacian tribes like the Naparis or Napaei, the Greek term napos (νάπος), meaning "timbered valley" or the Indo-European root *snā-p- (Pokorny 971-2), "to flow, to swim, damp".[24] Independent of these hypotheses, scholars agree that the name of the settlement predates the Roman conquest (AD 106).[24]

Din articolul in limba romana despre Cluj-Napoca (care nu e consistent cu cel in engleza) Prima atestare documentară a unei aşezări pe teritoriul de astăzi al Clujului a fost făcută de geograful grec Claudius Ptolemeu, care a menţionat aici una dintre cele mai însemnate localităţi din Dacia, cu numele Napuca.

Apoi, oricat de sovin ar suna, nu mi se pare normal sa folosim ca referinte la istoria antica a Clujului un articol scris de unguri. Nu poate fi decat subiectiv, partinitor si irelevant pentru ca nu erau aici, si n-ar avea de unde sa stie cum ii spuneau dacii. E nevoie de o sursa istorica a vremii respective, care nu e partinitoare. Iar Geografia scrisa de Claudius Ptolemeu (Geographia_(Ptolemy)) mi se pare cea mai buna sursa.[3]

Cat despre limba daca si numele oraselor (care erau destule si nu le-au denumit romanii), se stie suficient. Vezi Dacian, List_of_Dacian_cities

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Apreciez schimbarea inapoi. Tot ce e important in articole de genul asta, si in wikipedia in general, e adevarul istoric, informatia pura si corecta, atat cat exista. Iar istoria e doar una, chiar daca nu o stim cu exactitate. Din pacate, nu stim inca suficient despre daci, dar e pacat sa neglijam, minimalizam, sau igoram putinul care-l avem: cateva cuvinte, nume de orase, nume de regi si zei. Doar pentru ca nu era asa de avansati ca si grecii si nu prea sunt scrieri, nu inseamna ca nu au existat sau ca nu sunt stramosii nostri. N-as amesteca comunismul, nationalismul cu originea cuvantului Napoca. Nu a inventat-o Ceausescu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codrinb (talk • contribs) 15:51, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

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Many thanks for the feedback. Will rework. Asterysk (talk) 05:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I've revised the article and would really appreciate feedback.Asterysk (talk) 06:49, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

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Move of Srem District to Syrmia District

Hey, I was just wondering what it was that you meant with "did you think what to do with the categories?", as I'm sure they would be updated anyway? I rarely edit Wikipedia, and I'm sorry for dragging this out of last year... FMasic (talk) 22:27, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I knew as much, but I'm just confused as to why the categories would stop functioning, because they are referenced in the moved page itself... FMasic (talk) 16:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

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Discuss this

Hmm, welcome back. :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, welcome back.radek (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, gentlemen. I'm sure I'll make good. - Biruitorul ^Talk 00:29, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Good to have you back. Hope you'll respect your pledge to fully comply to the encyclopaedic decorum and you won't be part of an eventual EEML2 (which may be facilitated by the handling of certain motions by the ArbCom; while Biruitorul and other two users of the EEML should be allowed to go back to unrestricted edits, the ArbCom should be wary of not removing the restrictions of the main instigators of the EEML).Anonimu (talk) 00:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back as well. PЄTЄRS J VЄСRUМВА ►TALK 15:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

banned user?

Can you elaborate who Sebastian Gabriel Vînătoru (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)'s creator is? They removed the g5, and I restored it and warned them but I don't have a good handle on who it might be. Syrthiss (talk) 14:52, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Yep, once I looked at the references they were all fake or to other players. I figured something was up when he edited an article on a tournament to include himself and the tournament's own website didn't support those changes. He's been blocked, pages salted, etc. Syrthiss (talk) 17:06, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Gyula Germanus

I didn't "blindly revert" you. 90% of your edit was bad. I'm not going to spend my time fixing your errors because 10% of your edit was good. OlYeller^Talktome 11:48, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Making the connections between Communiqué "Geochange", Global Network for the Forecasting of Earthquakes, Elchin Khalilov, World Organization for Scientific Cooperation Active Banana (talk) 16:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jehovah's Witnesses Association of Romania

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Orthodox church lists

Do you plan on nominating Orthodox parishes in Hawaii and List of Orthodox parishes in Alaska for deletion as well, or should I do the honors? SnottyWong ^spout 22:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding Eastern European mailing list

Following a motion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Amendment:

Remedy 20 of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern European mailing list ("Miacek topic banned") is lifted.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, NW (Talk) 00:14, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Discuss this

Request to modify Remedy 11A) at Eastern European mailing list

Informing you of my request here. Best regards, PЄTЄRS J VЄСRUМВА ►TALK 20:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

TheatreJ productions / WP:NOTDIR)

Good Evening

I would like to open a discussion about whether or not a list of a theatre company's past productions is a directory.

When we are dealing with an individual theatre which is rented out (such as Broadway theatres) I would agree that a list of productions would be in appropriate. However when you have a production company such as Theater J with a specified mission the production history is important. I have heard Zelda Fichandler (a key individual in developing regional theater) maintains that "Repertory is Destiny". There is no better description of a production company's repertory than it's recent and current productions

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Ecragg (talk) 03:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mikó Citadel

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:06, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

you deleted Octavian Hart 's bio

please restore Octavian Hart article. there is no reason not to have his bio on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Octavian_HART - (Mihai Dragomirescu [Bob] (talk) 09:08, 1 August 2010 (UTC))

Teodor Baconschi

Hi Biruitorul, thanks for making changes to Teodor Baconschi. Two questions for you. Is he really the son of Anatol E. Baconsky. I guess I misunderstood the sentence Anatol E. Baconsky was the elder brother of Leon Baconsky, a literary historian and academic, and the father of writer and diplomat Teodor Baconschi. Thought he was the son of Leon Baconsky. Also why did you remove the See also section? It's important to invite readers to see the government of Romania when they read about one of its ministers. On a separate note, I see you uploaded the picture of Baconschi in Wikimedia Commons [4] but the description says "Cristian Diaconescu" instead of "Teodor Baconschi". Please correct. Thanks. Tuscumbia (talk) 12:56, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Communes in Romania

Please note that if a commune is defunct, the appropriate change is to create a new category for Category:Defunct communes of Romania and then recategorize the articles there. It is not appropriate to simply remove the articles from the only content category that they're currently in, because no article is ever allowed to be left entirely uncategorized. You can change the "Communes of X Province" category if a change is necessary — but if it's the only category on the article, you cannot just remove it without adding a different one instead. (And no, the presence of a stub template doesn't count as "categorized", either; an article is considered uncategorized if it doesn't have at least one real, permanent content category applied directly to the page itself.) Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 23:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Romania Barnstar of National Merit
		I am proud to present you with this barnstar for taking the time to do a proper WP:BEFORE at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor Ciutacu. Too often non-English notables fall through the cracks, when a decent search would reveal the sources for estabishing notability. Keep up the terrific work. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 02:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Adresa e-mail

Salut

adresa ta de e-mail de pe wiki e disponibila? adica se pot trimite mesaje acolo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.117.150.166 (talk) 09:11, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Romanian cities category

I've reopened the question of how to name the Romanian cities category here. Notifying you and other participants in the previous discussion.--Kotniski (talk) 11:07, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Viorel Hrebenciuc

Materialscientist (talk) 00:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Email

Yes, I did follow up. Toddst1 (talk) 15:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Cities category again

Hi, can you look back here and comment on my proposals for closing the discussion? Thanks,--Kotniski (talk) 08:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

File:Copertagandirea.jpg missing description details

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DYK for Virgil Ardelean

Materialscientist (talk) 12:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

The Milhist election has started!

The Military history WikiProject coordinator election has started. You are cordially invited to help pick fourteen new coordinators from a pool of twenty candidates. This time round, the term has increased from six to twelve months so it is doubly important that you have your say! Please cast your vote here no later than 23:59 (UTC) on Tuesday, 28 September 2010.

With many thanks in advance for your participation from the coordinator team,  Roger Davies ^talk 21:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:RomanianForeignMinisters

Hello there. I think there are some discrepancies in your newly created template or the existing list of ministers of foreign affairs must be completely re-examined. Based on the latter list I have created dozens of articles on the ministers and pretty much covered all from current Romania to the principalities. Are you taking the list in your template from a source, if so could you please send me the link? Tuscumbia (talk) 18:18, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll make some edits to the template linking it with new articles I already created. However, the list I from Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Romania) seems to be incomplete as well. For instance, Ion Stoian is missing even though he served as the minister for a very short time while he is in your template. I'll be making additions and corrections. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Vision 2015

I agree the article as you tagged it was not acceptable. I have removed a great deal of peripheral material as a first step, & am now looking for proper secondary sources. As there is no personal authorship given in the document, we will need secondary sources to say anything about authorship, and intellectual responsibility--even if it is notable. I think sims may herself be independently notable, & am going to try to do an article. I havesome memory of there being a deleted article about her previously, but I can not identify it. DGG ( talk ) 02:29, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mizil

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

AFD Notification

Hello, I have nominated for deletion an article you have contributed to: SOCEP Constanţa. Your input would be appreciated on the article's AFD page. Thanks! The Eskimo (talk) 17:30, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Ministers of Foreign Affairs

Hi there, just wanted to let you know that the list of Ministers of Foreign Affairs is now complete with articles on all ministers created. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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Religious situation of Transylvania in 1054

I'm sorry to disturb you, but there's currently a debate here about whether there was a significant Eastern Orthodox presence in Transylvania around 1054, and since I noticed in the past that you have knowledge about these topics, I thought you might be interested, but of course, there's no problem if you're busy with other things. Cody7777777 (talk) 14:43, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I wish to thank you for posting in that debate.Cody7777777 (talk) 15:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Diacritic correction

Thanks for your input. I will stop moving pages until a bot is introduced to do most of the work, but I'll keep editing pages that don't need moving, if I come across them, and I'm in the mood to spend some time editing. No need to worry about Turkic words, I don't modify them. It's a good thing that comma to cedilla redirects have been made for title names, or any modifications would have ruined the links.

BTW, you should provide your input on the bot requests page. I added a section on a possible bot. --Ayceman (talk) 22:02, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Sticky Prods

Hi Biruitorul, I hope you don't mind but I've declined your BLP prod on Ip Ching. Sticky prods are currently only for articles created since the 18th March this year, and only for totally unsourced ones not poorly sourced ones. ϢereSpielChequers 22:07, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Enosesti redirected to Piatra Olt

Salut, Is there a reason to redirect Enosesti, the page I just created, to Piatra Olt?

It already has corresponding page in the Romanian wikipedia. With the redirect, the connection is pretty much lost.

I am new and don't know all the rules, but doesn't seem to be helpful to do this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codrinb (talk • contribs) 03:09, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Bună, yes, there was good reason for the redirect. Some time ago, a group of editors on English Wikipedia (which isn't governed by what goes on at Romanian Wikipedia) decided that we would have articles on Romanian cities, towns and communes, but that villages would be redirected to the article on the parent locality (usually a commune, but in this case a town). Of course, consensus can change, but there is good reason to preserve this consensus. The main reason is that most of Romania's 13,000+ villages simply aren't that notable, and that whatever there is to be said about them can be said in separate sections at the parent locality's article. (See for instance Coronini: it also includes the village of Sfânta Elizabeta, and everything one needs to know is amply covered there. And even one of Romania's most famous villages, Humuleşti, redirects to the parent town of Târgu Neamţ; take a look at Ion Creangă's biography to see how this works in practice: "Humuleşti, a former village which has since been incorporated into Târgu Neamţ city...") Plus, with redirects, there's no difficulty in finding the relevant article: typing in Enoşeşti, Enosesti, Enoşeşti, Olt, Enosesti, Olt will all take readers to the same place. (A second reason for not having village articles, though not applicable in this case, is true in about 95% of cases: most villages are in communes that include villages A, B, C, D, E, etc. But the communes themselves usually have the name of "A". And so if villages B, C, D and E have articles, do we make separate articles for village A and commune A? It seems logical, but awfully redundant at the same time.)

I encourage you to say all you have to say about Enoşeşti in the Piatra-Olt article, in a separate section if you wish. But I hope I've explained why a separate article would not be such a good idea. - Biruitorul ^Talk 16:02, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the detailed reply. I guess I get the point. But a few more questions arise, which are pretty generic:

1. Let's say a village like Enoşeşti has archaeological sites or fits very specific, narrow categories, should I add the categories (e.g. Category:Archaeological sites in Romania) to the commune like Piatra Olt?
2. The Romanian version of the wiki has a page for Enoşeşti as well as for the commune. How is this kept in sync? How can you ensure that the users can switch between the Romanian and English versions at both the village and the commune level/pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Codrinb (talk • contribs) 16:38, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Liberal Party in Brazil

The first Liberal Party appeared in 1826. It was a very loose coalition between the Coimbra bloc (the core of what would later become the Conservative Party), Nativists and Radicals. It disappeared in 1831 with the abdication of Pedro I.

The second Liberal Party appeared around 1837 when the Coimbra bloc became the governing party. It was an alliance between Nativists, Radicals and former Restorationists (politicians who proposed the return of Pedro I as regent during his son's minority) and lasted until 1849 when the Praieira revolt was crushed.

The third Liberal Party was created in 1868, with former members of the defunct second Liberal Party and former Conservatives. From this party a group of radicals would create the Republican Party of São Paulo in 1870. If you want a detailed information on the fall of the second Liberal Party and the rise of the third, read the article on José Paranhos, Viscount of Rio Branco. Please, do not go around addind wikilings to a Liberal Party that existed from 1837 to 1889. There was no such party. --Lecen (talk) 23:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps an article called "Liberal Party (Empire of Brazil)" and then you could create a section to each Liberal Party. From there, all it would be neeeded would be to wikilink them. --Lecen (talk) 10:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

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Rio Branco

Hi, Biruitorul. You've made substantial changes in the Viscount of Rio Branco's article. Will you support or oppose its nomination? Regards, --Lecen (talk) 20:53, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Email

Hi Biruitorul, In response to your email, I personally don't see any real similarities with that editor. Nick-D (talk) 03:57, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Christianity and violence

Hi Biruitorul, Back in July 2009, you nominated Christianity and violence for deletion (probably under a similar but different title). As you may remember, it survived that AFD as well as another one in April 2010. Since the second AFD, it has undergone a very substantial rewriting in which I played a significant role. I was wondering if you would take a look at the article and provide some feedback for further improvement on the article's Talk Page. I really think the current version addresses the concerns raised by you and other editors in the AFD. (My view in the AFD discussions was that the article was awful but could be rescued. I think my edits over the last month have more or less accomplished that rescue. I'd like to know if you agree.)

I also noted that someone tried to question your AFD nomination because you were Eastern Orthodox. As it happens, I've noticed that the article is written almost entirely from a Western Church point-of-view. There is darn little about the Orthodox view of the topic. Of course, one area that the Orthodox get particularly excited about is the evil that was done by the Crusaders. However, there are also important topics regarding antisemitism and the pogroms as well as Serbian war crimes in the Yugoslav wars. I wonder if you could help with respect to those topics. I'm not trying to mount a POV attack on the Orthodox Church but I think there should be an NPOV treatment of these topics and I think having an Orthodox editor involved would help accomplish that.

--Richard S (talk) 04:49, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

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WikiProject Dacia

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José Paranhos, Viscount of Rio Branco

Biruitorul, José Paranhos, Viscount of Rio Branco is now a Featured article. Thank you very much for reviewing it! Regards, --Lecen (talk) 12:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Alexandru Ivasiuc.jpg

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Speedy deletion declined: Eminoior

Hello Biruitorul. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Eminoior, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. ϢereSpielChequers 10:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Lidia Vianu

Hello Biruitorul. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Lidia Vianu, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It's considerably better, or at least more, sourced than it was last time. Needs to go back to AfD if necessary. They may well have become notable in the 5 years since the last afd. Thank you. GedUK  21:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

My comeback

My dear friend, this is to let you know that I am finally ready for my comeback. Things have been hectic since I last wrote back, and I hope you can forgive me for my long silence - RL prevented me from even focusing on the many issues that needed my attention, and for a while I was offline altogether. Now that the technical issues are practically solved, and that RL gives me more of a break (even though I'm still not writing this from my regular lair), I hope to be back for good. I want to thank for your patience, for the kind wishes (although my message here is belated, my thoughts and best wishes went out to you and your family during Xmas), and for the characteristically elegant manner in which you held down the fort. More to come over e-mail. If we don't get a chance to talk come New Year's Eve, please accept this early message for 2011, wishing you and your loved ones an entirely beautiful and productive new year. Dahn (talk) 15:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)Bel

Belated (but not for orthodox) Christmas greetings and Best Wishes for a happy and healthy New Year to (both of) you and to yours! PЄTЄRS J VЄСRUМВА ►TALK 21:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Technically, you are belated, as for the last ~90 years, while Russia, Georgia and Serbia have retained January 6th as the date of Christmas, Greece, Romania and Bulgaria have used the new calendar (except for Easter, which all Orthodox except the Finnish Orthodox Church celebrate on the old calendar). That said, many thanks (and after all, we are in the Twelve Days of Christmas), happy new year, and good luck! - Biruitorul ^Talk 23:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

How I must have been exhausting your patience... The thing is that I'm on a rather weird schedule in RL, and kept moving between cities since before New Year's. I am about to pop out several new articles and just got my hands on some excellent new sources, which have use on countless articles we've been "sharing" (one is Boia's Germanofilii, and it's to die for). Overall, I'm backlogged. And, with the AfDs and the Dacia thing, I just lost focus of that priority - but I promise you it'll be worthwhile. I am so sorry whenever this off-synchronizing happens, and I wish I could be more present and more focused, and I really wish I'd not have been so cranky with Peters. Dahn (talk) 13:09, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

On Dacia and related, the ebb and flows of peoples across central eastern Europe is like none anywhere else in Europe—and perhaps nowhere else, I just haven't studied a wider geography. But it's not until you ask the question of who, exactly, are the Romanians, whose territory is an epicenter of this churning of humanity across the ages, that the impact of that ebb and flow really comes into focus. It's totally fascinating, regardless of what you ultimately believe. PЄTЄRS J VЄСRUМВА ►TALK 18:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Proposal for Deletion: Poet in the City

I have added independent sources for the Poet in the City article which you flagged indicating notability.

I have started a discussion on the Talk page for the article if you wish to discuss this further

ClarkF1 (talk) 15:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Salut! I would value your neutral opinion. Thanks! Codrin.B (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Muiţumesc

Acum câtăva vreme mi-aţi solicitat ajutorul pe care vi l-am dat susţinându-vă fără nicio rezervă. Mulţumesc pentru reciprocitate.

Cu privire la articolul la care mă refer, există şi o serie de surse publicate, ca enciclopedia Who's Who in Art precum şi publicaţiile proprii pe care le ignoraţi. Evident că în reacredinţa lui Dahn el le atacă şi pe acestea.

Cu privire la acţiunile anticomuniste din 1956 (şi altele, cum sunt de exemplu cele din munţi) există multe grupuri care le neagă importanţa şi care caută să le treacă sub tăcere. Este foarte trist că vă ataşaţi de asemenea tendinţe. De ceea ce este necesar este nu o acţiune distructivă ci de una concertată de a aduce la lumină pe cei care şi-au pus viaţa şi libertatea în pericol pentru o cauză, nu de a-i ignora pentrucă au fost pomeniţi prea puţin. Poate că aveţi argumente formale că bibliografia este incompletă - dar din păcate este un pas imens de la o deficienţă formală la o ignorare şi negare a activităţii unei generaţii care s-a sacrificat. Dar, deşi este o deziluzie, v'aţi făcut poziţia foarte clară.Afil (talk) 17:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Din păcate cred că v-aţi cam lăsat dus de intervenţia lui Dahn, care nu atacă doar articolul în chestiune ci o serie întreagă de contribuţii, ceea ce permite o serie de alte interpretări. Şi critica cu privire la menţiunea din Who's Who acuzaţia că includerea în dicţionar ar fi fost plătită şi deci nu este o sursă de încredere este o minciună sfruntată şi sunt în măsură să ştiu. Este deci o afirmaţie de rea credinţă, pe care nu ar trebui să o acceptaţi doar pe baza unei simple acuzaţii.

Ceea ce este extrem de deranjant în acţiunea lui Dahn este acel double standard pe care îl aplică. În discuţia sa se referă la Maria Filotti, despre care arată că merită un articol - fapt pe care nu-l contest. Dar articolul respectiv are o singură referinţă care nici măcar nu poate fi accesată. Ceea ce ar trebui să puteţi să-mi explicaţi este de ce, pe simplul criteriu ar referinţelor, aceeaşi persoană consideră articolul Maria Filotti ca un articol care trebuie menţinut şi Ligia Filotti ca un articol care trebuie şters. Dacă este vorba despre criterii, nu ar trebui aplicate uniform. Sau există şi altceva în afara criteriilor care l-a determinat pe Dahn să susţină menţinerea unuia din cele două articole şi ştergerea celuilalt. Este vorba despre aceeaşi persoană care menţionează ambele articole în acelaşi paragraf al discuţiei.

Şi din păcate cred că acest aspect al diferenţierii modului de tratare de сătre Dahn al celor două articole - care demonstrează că propunerea de ştergere are alte motive decât cele invocate - v-a scăpat.Afil (talk) 19:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Sa fie foarte clar: Ligia Filotti, ca si toate celelalte articole pe care le-am mentionat, si care sunt contributia dvs., dle Afil, acela nu are ce cauta pe wikipedia - a afirma altceva este deja, la acest moment, o proba de necunoastere a regulilor de baza wikipedia. Cat despre Maria Filotti (sau Eugen Filotti), va explic eu: chiar daca face parte din aceeasi "serie" familiala, si chiar daca dvs ati luat si asemenea articole pe sus, in noianul cercetarii originale etc., persoanele descrise sunt notabile, dpdv al politicilor wikipedia. Activitatea lor este amplu consemnata in surse externe, credibile si chiar academice. Dar, tin sa adaug, si in acest caz tiparul de editare pune serioase probleme wikipediei: de exemplu, in articolul despre Eugen Filotti, ati batut campii pe tema anti-stangismului lui Eugen Filotti, atunci cand pot cita cel putin doua surse credibile care vorbesc in detaliu despre Eugen Filotti ca una din figurile relativ importante ale stangii interbelice (indiferent de schimbarile de parcurs - survenite in exil?). In fine, nu vreau sa incep o noua discutie anodina: informati-va cu privire la politicile wikipedia, inclusiv aceea legata de conflictul de interese, si incercati sa le respectati, dle Afil; daca nu veti face asta, riscati ca intreaga comunitate wikipedista, care va remarca faptul ca v-ati facut un proiect genealogic personal dintr-o enciclopedie cu criterii de respectabilitate, sa isi piarda rabdarea intr-un mod mult mai drastic decat ati vazut pana acum ca se poate. Nu este o amenintare a mea, este o consecinta fireasca a ceea ce alegeti sa faceti, si va rog sa-mi interpretati vorbele ca pe un sfat. Un sfat ferm. Dahn (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:RCCDiocesesUkr

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Thank you

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Romanian Golden Team

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Using bad diacritics for Romanian?

Any reason to revert the List of Romanian archaeologists to old diacritics? Have you seen this ro:Wikipedia:Diacriticele vechi și noi or I am missing something?--Codrin.B (talk) 06:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

By the way, what's the status of these Romanian diacritics at the moment? Are there any plans to move articles en masse to the correct diacritics?--Kotniski (talk) 10:37, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Naming conventions

Hi. I want to inform you that there is current voting about name of this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Momcsilló_Tapavicza#Requested_move Perhaps you can say your opinion there if you wish. PANONIAN 10:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

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European Union Border Assistance Mission to Moldova and Ukraine

A PR person of EBAM replaced the article with a PR stuff (I noticed it because he/she linked the page to some other pages). From the history I see it was not the first time, and you reverted it once already. What is your opinion on today version? I don't want to revert it myself. Also, is adding webliks in other pages a kind of spam? Since it is just a homepage. Multumesc in avans. Logofat de Chichirez (talk) 19:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Need a little help with a Dutch article

Hi, just wondering if you would be able to help me with a Dutch article? Its a biography (again!) and has a couple of erroneous statements we'd like to see corrected. Would you be able to point us in the right direction? Thanks much! Asterysk

Oh thank you! The article is here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Stevaert. We've placed a note for the author on the discussions page under this head: Gemeenteraadslid en gedeputeerde sometime ago. One previous time, we edited it, but the author reverted and undid our edits, so I am not sure this will be actioned. Asterysk —Preceding undated comment added 15:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC).

Thanks Biru! I'll drop User:Drmies a line. Asterysk (talk) 06:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Blimey...

The only good news so far is that we have an article on the 1940 quake, though I'm not sure about the terminology (either way). The rest: I'll have less on my plate next week, hopefully we'll deal with that then. Btw, do I gather the villages-communes-templates is someone's "revenge" tactic? After all, rivers too are not just lines on a map... :) Dahn (talk) 18:16, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

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Torched

Hi. I fail to understand the meaning of that, as an edit summary. If you are going to delete something from an article, it would be helpful if you supplied a sense as to the rationale for the deletion, and I can't seem to divine it from your edit summary. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:10, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

WQA

See WQA.Afil (talk) 20:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Already closed as inappropriate, no worries. Tarc (talk) 20:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Chairmen of the Moldavian SSR Supreme Soviet

• Hello. I have removed the names of the Presidium Chairmen, since they were heads of state andn ot parliamentary speakers. My source is in Russian, so I had to translate the names:

Joseph Vartichan = Iosif Vartician Sergei Radautsan = Sergiu Rǎdǎutanu Pavel Botsu = Pavel Boţu

I am a little bit uncertain about Simon Kozhukar. According to Wikipedia the Romanian version of Simon is Simon or Simion. I don't know if this person was an ethnic Romanian, a Russian or a Ukrainian. If he was a Romanian I guess that his family name would be Kozhukaru. I would be very grateful if you could sort this out. Have a nice day. Best wishes! Mbakkel2 10:39, 1 March 2011 (CET)

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Reșița & Reşiţa

Hiya I see you've moved Reșița back to Reşiţa. Is this part of grand plan? Railwayfan2005 (talk) 22:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

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Sigh

...sigh. Dahn (talk) 21:20, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK

Marked both Helmet of Cotofenesti and Ziridava for WP:DYK! It would be great if you could give me hand, especially for the English. Maybe we can even get them to WP:GOOD. Thanks and regards --Codrin.B (talk) 03:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Helmet of Coţofeneşti

Thanks a lot for the help! What rules specifically prevent blog articles and youtube? Regardless, you removed what I think is an important and very good article: Debunking myths and a graphical reconstruction by Radu Oltean. The author, Radu Oltean provided the images to us and especially the one with the reconstruction of the helmet. He is a very rigorous guy. I would insist to keep at least his work in there, either in further readings or external links. --Codrin.B (talk) 16:13, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

No blogs. See WP:RS. Dahn (talk) 16:15, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, no matter how unfortunate. I consider myself a reliable source (!) but only materials of reliable sources which I have merely reproduced on the web may be cited on WP, not my web site(s) in general. PЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 16:24, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Can you point me to the WP rule for that though? Just because someone wrote an article on the blogspot.com domain not myfunkysite.com, doesn't make it less reliable. I think is silly. The important thing is who wrote it. The guy in question also has historyarts.ro as a domain. If he puts the article there is better?! I think this is just silly. Radu is extremely rigorous in his research and in the history related graphics he creates. --Codrin.B (talk) 16:53, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Codrin, it would really help if you actually read the replies you expect. The rule is WP:RS, specifically the subsection WP:SPS. That really applies to any personal domain, not just blogs. Dahn (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure Oltean is good at what he does, and I don't mean any disrespect to his work. That said, if we're to bring the article to GA or even DYK (a hope I share), the blog source is going to have to go. Whether we like it or not, and I admit it can be frustrating, blogs are almost always to be excluded. The only narrow exception is at WP:SPS: "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications". Even then, the policy goes on to caution: "However, one should take care when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else is likely to have done so." Given that Olteanu is a hobbyist (albeit a very dedicated one), and not a historian, his material isn't usable.

As for YouTube, see WP:ELNO and WP:ELNEVER for prohibited/discouraged links. Among the stated cautions is: "linking to sites such as YouTube, where due care should be taken to avoid linking to material that violates copyright". Given that most material there is copyright, it should be avoided as external links. - Biruitorul ^Talk 19:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I see, makes sense I guess, although it is a pity. The guy is an amateur who in my opinion reached expert level. Thanks for clarifying. Looks like both the Helmet of Cotofenesti and Ziridava were considered too late for DYK ... Let's try with the Helmet of Iron Gates, but working on this draft instead and then pasting the 5x work. I just got some new high res pictures from the museum in Detroit. --Codrin.B (talk) 15:40, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

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