User talk:Bensin/Archives/2011

China Forbes

AFAIK, and you can search NPR to confirm, the pronunciation of her name is no different from the country or the magazine. MMetro (talk) 21:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. But it's better if you put it in the article if you know for sure. --Bensin (talk) 00:08, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea how to enter Wikipedia's pronunciation style. MMetro (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Me neither. So I tag the words that need pronunciation clarifications and leave it to those who do. They are usually pretty quick. --Bensin (talk) 08:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Charade

Hi, now that Charade and Charade (film) point to a disambig, please help clean up incoming links per WP:FIXDABLINKS. This tool makes the job a lot easier. Thanks, --JaGa^talk 00:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Thanks for pointing it out, and thanks for the link to the tool. I've fixed them now. --Bensin (talk) 13:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Fantastic! Thanks much for the help - and I'm glad you liked the tool. --JaGa^talk 17:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

The Sin of Nora Moran

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Answered on bot talk page. --Bensin (talk) 14:09, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

8th Wonderland

Hi Bensin,

how can I connect the 8th Wonderland articles that are written in separate languages with each other. Other language versions are usually on the lower left side. Is that something only admins can do or is that something anyone could do? Thanks Alex —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.94.60.112 (talk) 00:37, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Any editor can add interwiki links to articles. They are usually added at the very bottom of the wiki code. I just added the iw link to the French article of 8th Wonderland, and you can see how I did it here. --Bensin (talk) 09:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Lars Huldén

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Done! --Bensin (talk) 00:36, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Actor's and Sin

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Non-creative list of information is not creative content --Bensin (talk) 11:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Your response here will likely go unheeded, as it was a notification by a "bot"... created by User:VernoWhitney as one of the many little maintainance programs that automatically trundle through Wikipedia in search of possible problems. Had there been more to the article than simply some brief information from IMDB, the bot would never have stopped by. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 09:29, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Border Vengeance for deletion

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inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Border Vengeance

Rather than "Oppose" a deletion, the prefered manner is to !vote "Keep" the article and then state why. Of course, a bit of improvement and sourcing is a decent argument for retention too. Best, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 08:50, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

OK. Thanks! --Bensin (talk) 13:32, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

This might help...

Perhaps you might wish to vist the new article Wives Never Know and then study the page edits one by one as I made them,[1] to see a decent step-by-step construction of a film article that I built in a userspace "User:MichaelQSchmidt/Wives Never Know" until it reached the point where it was suitable for mainspace. It might prevent future headaches if you work in a user subpage and then move to mainspace when it is truely ready to survive. Best regards, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind offer, but it is my belief that articles I create are best kept in mainspace from the start where everyone can contribute. If you choose a different method that suits you better then I have no objections to that :-) I also think that a small article with some information is better than no article at all. --Bensin (talk) 09:27, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Not an "offer"... only a suggestion. Sadly, as as you have seen first hand, when an article is a short and unsourced stub, it often draws negative attention rather than positive. And THAT can cause bad feelings. My suggestion for use of a userspace should be seen as a my own thought that something should not be set loose in mainspace until it at least has a few sources to encourage more, as not all editors are as willing as I to improve film articles. As you seem to have an interest in film articles, I invite you to consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Film (I'm one of its co-ordinators). Becoming a member is as easy as following the instructions HERE. Or not. In either case, I'm glad you are here and willing to contribute. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 09:48, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

And now I feel a bit dumb... having just realized you've been editing since 2005,[2] and have created hundreds of articles.[3] I'm not saying anything above that you do not already know. Sorry. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:17, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry about it! Everybody can use a reminder now and then and editing Wikipedia is an art I certainly have not mastered yet. --Bensin (talk) 10:57, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

And more about Actor's and Sin...

(one comment removed by the editor who wrote it) --Bensin (talk) 10:57, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

• Hi. I've nominated Actor's and Sin, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Good job improving that article! Now, if you could just do the same to the films listed here, starting from the bottom and working your way up, that'd be great, thanks! ;-D --Bensin (talk) 10:57, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Butterflies

Hi there. I've been sorting out the consequences of your page recent moves. The problem was that by moving Madame Butterfly to Madame Butterfly (short story) and then making a redirect out of the original title to Madame Butterfly (disambiguation), you broke literally hundreds of links. The primary topic is Puccini's opera which very commonly referred to in English as Madame Butterfly. The redirect from that page to Madama Butterfly had been in place since 2003, i.e. well over 7 years. Before making similar drastic moves, please check the "What links here" first, and find a more rational solution to disambiguation. Anyhow, it's fixed now and I've added appropriate hatnotes to all the other "Butterflies". Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for the help and heads up. --Bensin (talk) 13:17, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Threads on mw

New message on mw:User talk:Chzz#About the merger of threads  Chzz  ►  02:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Answered there. --Bensin (talk) 04:20, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Article feedback tool

Have you heard anything more about this? Nothing on the talk page since June 2nd. Dougweller (talk) 14:24, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

No, I have not. I keep an eye on it. --Bensin (talk) 16:24, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Weird, I've updated that page every day and haven't seen the posts since 2nd June that I see when I click on the link above. I just tried clicking on the main page then back to discussion and they showed up. Glad I asked! Dougweller (talk) 20:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

That is odd. That makes my answer to you above sound like as if I had not heard anything at ALL since June 2nd, which of course is not the case :-) I'm glad you'll be catching up! --Bensin (talk) 20:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I was puzzled about not seeing any comments since June 2nd. I still am, but now for technical reasons. I'm glad I'm catching up also. This whole thing puzzles me. Dougweller (talk) 14:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like a cache/purge-problem to me. --Bensin (talk) 14:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

PROD: The Swap

I have proposed your article "The Swap" be deleted. According to WP:PRD, I am to inform you of this. The film does not appear to have received any major reviews, and I believe it fails WP:NFILM. Interchangable|talk to me|what I've changed 22:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! I objected to the proposed deletion on the talk page and removed the template from the article. --Bensin (talk) 01:11, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Applejack (beverage) for deletion

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Thanks for letting me know. Voting already closed "keep" though. --Bensin (talk) 14:55, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

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Office Hours

Hey Bensin/Archives/2011! I'm just dropping you a message because you've commented on (or expressed an interest in) the Article Feedback Tool in the past. If you don't have any interest in it any more, ignore the rest of this message :).

If you do still have an interest or an opinion, good or bad, we're holding an office hours session tomorrow at 19:00 GMT/UTC in #wikimedia-office to discuss completely changing the system. In attendance will be myself, Howie Fung and Fabrice Florin. All perspectives, opinions and comments are welcome :).

I appreciate that not everyone can make it to that session - it's in work hours for most of North and South America, for example - so if you're interested in having another session at a more America-friendly time of day, leave me a message on my talkpage. I hope to see you there :). Regards, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:32, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation! I'll try and be there. --Bensin (talk) 19:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for showing, dude! Loved your contributions - it's great to have you helping us out with this stuff :). I've passed all your suggestions on to Fabrice, who has some feedback. He's really enthusiastic about upvoting/downvoting comments, which was initially stuck in but was kept out of the wireframes until we knew if the community would like it or not. The idea of inviting readers to see other comments before providing some themselves is also a great one - we'll consider that in Phase 2 of the design, which will start in January-ish (it's a bit complex for the initial phase). All in all, great suggestions! Please do provide any others you have, or any comments overall, at Wikipedia talk:Article Feedback Tool/Version 5, which is where discussions will mainly be centred. Office hours logs can be found here, and we're thinking of holding another one maybe next Thursday. I'll let you know when I have more details :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 19:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

It was a good talk, dude! :-) I'm glad you like my suggestions. Thanks for the links! I'll post some comments there. I'll try and join the next Office hours too. --Bensin (talk) 00:47, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! Okay, I've now confirmed a time-and-date; we're holding it at 24:00 UTC on Thursday (the odd time is to allow East Coast editors to participate - they'd normally be at work). Thank you so, so much for your comments so far. Make no mistake, you're winning a lot of brownie points :P. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 19:27, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Great! I'll see you there. Make no mistake, I plan to collect dem brownies if I'm ever in the office neighborhood. Make 'em half regular, half with chocolate chips. ;-) --Bensin (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

• Hah! Half chocolate it is :P. Thanks for your attendance this week, and your ideas - the full logs can be found here, as always, and we plan on scheduling the hours far more in advance in the future, so I'll let you know the schedule over the next say, two months as soon as we work it out :). Re your specific ideas:

  considering the impact on readers in a/b testing: this'll be taken into account :). The results will be analysed with reader pissed-offedness in mind.

  merging comments: "interesting idea" was the response. There's some question as to whether merging would mess with the raw feedback data, but linking comments together in some way is definitely being considered, whether it's by merging (a la OTRS) or just by saying "X comment is associated with Y comment".

• The more general topics we discussed also had responses, but I'll bring those up on the talkpage to spur discussion. Once again, thanks so much :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:39, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

  Oh, and we've started a thread here about access issues; if you have the time to drop your opinion down there, please do so :) (yes, I know, you've already given your opinion, but it's easier for the devs if they're all in the same place ;p). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 19:31, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

• Oh - and the next Office Hours session will be held on Thursday at 19:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. Give me a poke if you can't make it but want me to send you the logs when they're released - we'll be holding sessions timed for East Coast editors and Australasian/Asian editors next week, so if you know any interested peeps in those timezones, poke them :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:51, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: merging comments: "Linking" comments is what I want I suppose. I was thinking along the lines of comment #2 marked as "done" explained by "merged to comment #1" and #1 gets all comment #2's up-votes + 1. So not an OTRS-merging where the comments are actually merged into one.

I posted my comment about the access issues on the talk page. Thanks for the heads-up.

Thanks for the invite to Office hours. I look forward to it. --Bensin (talk) 01:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Cool; I'll forward the amended suggestion to the devs :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 01:55, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

• Fabrice's response: "Since we won't start design on this feature until January, it is premature to offer specific answers on his new idea, but we will certainly take it into account when the time comes. One approach would be to enable tagging of feedback posts, with a link displaying all posts for a specified tag. Another approach is to allow an editor to select a number of posts, add a note and have that group of posts be displayable via a link below the editors' note, as proposed in this very rough concept wireframe for the Talk page, where user jimbo added a note, along with selected comments (that last part would be optional). Again, this is all very preliminary, but wanted to address Bensin's sensible suggestion"
• There's another office hours session on Friday, btw - 22:00 UTC. Hope to see you there! :) Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for feedback and invitation. I probably won't be able to make it tonight. If I don't, I'll read the transcript.--Bensin (talk) 19:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Kim Lukas

Hi, I deleted your recent article because it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts or show that it meets the notability guidelines for music. It is now wikipedia policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references. As a matter of policy, all biographies of living people will be deleted if they do not have references. Basing it on the Italian article is not a good idea. It fails on the same grounds, since the refs are not independent, and it is written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Unfortunately, my admin rights are only on the English version. If you think you can get this article to meet the criteria, you might as well start from scratch, there's only a couple of lines. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:34, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

restored Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:42, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Hello, Bensin. When you convert an existing title to be a disambiguation page, as you did with beside manner, please also help to WP:FIXDABLINKS by checking all the pages that contain links to "bedside manner" and retargeting those links to point to the correct article. Thank you. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:05, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool newsletter

Hey, all! A quick update on how version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool is developing. I'm sending this to both newsletter recipients and regular participants, because I appreciate we've been a bit quiet :).

So, we're just wrapping up the first round of user contributions. A big thank you to everyone who has contributed ideas (a full list of which can be found at the top of the page); thanks almost entirely to contributions by editors, the tool looks totally different to how it did two months ago when we were starting out. Big ideas that have made it in include a comment voting system, courtesy of User:Bensin, an idea for a more available way of deploying the feedback box, suggested by User:Utar, and the eventual integration of both oversight and the existing spam filtering tools into the new version, courtesy of..well, everyone, really :).

For now, the devs are building the first prototypes, and all the features specifications have been finalised. That doesn't mean you can't help out, however; we'll have a big pile of shiny prototypes to play around with quite soon. If you're interested in testing those, we'll be unveiling it all at this week's office hours session, which will be held on Friday 2 December at 19:00 UTC. If you can't make it, just sign up here. After that, we have a glorious round of testing to undertake; we'll be finding out what form works the best, what wording works the best, and pretty much everything else under the sun. As part of that, we need editors - people who know just what to look for - to review some sample reader comments, and make calls on which ones are useful, which ones are spam, so on and so forth. If that's something you'd be interested in doing, drop an email to okeyes@wikimedia.org.

Thanks to everyone for their contributions so far. We're making good headway, and moving forward pretty quickly :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:40, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Office Hours

Hey Bensin/Archives/2011; another Article Feedback Tool office hours session! This is going to be immediately after we start trialing the software publicly, so it's a pretty important one. If any of you want to attend, it will be held in #wikimedia-office on Friday 16th December at 19:00 UTC. As always, if you can't attend, drop me a line and I'm happy to link you to the logs when we're done. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:31, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I'll try to be there. --Bensin (talk) 00:59, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Awesome! It'll be great to see you :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

You too :-) --Bensin (talk) 03:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

• Hey; mind emailing me? I have a fun and rewarding subproject of AFT you might like to get involved in :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:17, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Just did. --Bensin (talk) 07:07, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

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