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User:Sam Spade

Yoweri Museveni and anonymous contribnutions as User:81.199.23.86

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I am glad you are contibuting to Wikipedia. In order to work effectively as a collaborative project, however, there are rules which users are requested to follow. You are supposed to discuss differences of opinion on the talk page rather than engage in an edit war, where users repeatedly revert each others changes. I hope that we can work together constructively to improve articles such as Yoweri Museveni. However, if you continue to revert changes without discussion and ignore the attempts of other Wikipedians to engage with you, then you may be banned from editing for a period of time. TreveXtalk 18:58, 24 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

I have now made an official request to have you banned from editing for a period of time. This could have been avoided if you had been prepared to discuss problems rather than repeatedly editing the articles. TreveXtalk 20:39, 24 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

He means blocked, and I opposed it. See WP:ViP. Sam Spade 21:10, 24 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Sam is right - what Bamboo has done is not strictly vandalism. It is rather a NPOV dispute where Bamboo has violated 3RR, which also mertits a ban. I have now moved the details from the vandalsim page to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Bamboo. TreveXtalk 21:56, 24 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

A fresh start

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Hi Bamboo. I am glad to see you are back, look forward to cooperating with you on Yoweri Museveni and hope we can put our previous disagreements behind us. I like your additions to this article. Is it possible you could write in paragraphs rather than seperating each sentence with a carriage return. This will make the article easier to read. TreveXtalk 16:48, 26 May 2005 (UTC).Reply

You were blocked from editing recently because you violated the three-revert rule. If you don't understand this, then you can read about it here. I hope this helps in future. TreveXtalk 16:50, 26 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
Hi. Could you take a look at the discussion page over at Talk:Yoweri Museveni. I would appreciate your thoughts on what I have written there. Cheers. TreveXtalk 03:27, 27 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Your test

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Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will be reverted quickly. Please see the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. - BanyanTree 14:20, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you were just trying to experiment, then use the sandbox instead. Thank you. Continuing with the unsubstantiated assertions, I see. - BanyanTree 18:19, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Your edits

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I have read through your edits to Yoweri Museveni over the last few weeks, and your comments here. I am impressed with your dedication, and your obvious knowledge of the history of the wars in Central Africa. Wikipedia is a collective project, with many editors, yourself included, very welcome.

If I can start with some easy places you can improve your style, it is the sentence per paragraph. If I can put it another way, if you persist in doing it, other people feel obliged to fix it, and while they are at it, they will read, fix, or revert your comments. So, a good way to make your edits 'stick' is to format them properly. A good way to get your edits reverted it is to remove nicely formatted (though, in your opinion, incorrect) comments and replace them with badly-formatted, unsubstantiated facts. The last two sentences hold true on any page in Wikipedia.

There is no cabal. We are all individuals - I am a (white) person, born in colonial Kenya, well-travelled through Africa, lived in the West, now living in South Africa. I contribute (as I can) to Zulu history. I have a great deal of respect for Banyantree - not that I know him beyond his documentation of Central African history. This is not a cosy corner of a pub, this is standing in front of thousands and justifying your contributions. I feel your pain over trying to substantiate your edits with references. Yes, the (documented) world is biased towards the West. Regarding Museveni's birthplace and parentage, for instance, I encourage you to put a short (50-100 word) /single paragraph/ together that includes as much true information as you know (including constitutional requirements), under a new heading, and submit it as an alternative view on the page. Even then it may not survive review. It will /never/ survive as three pages of rambling single paragraphs - even I will revert that.

I also watch Robert Mugabe's page, and am routinely taking out POV, unsubstantiated edits. I am no lover of Robert Mugabe, but if his detractors cannot tell me why they do not like him past the pub-corner hand-waving, I am obliged to remove it.

Please watch your style, stay on-topic (rambling about Iraq belongs somewhere else), and make easily-readable, concentrated edits. You will learn to love wikipedia as we do. Wizzy 20:56, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

Museveni on peer review

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Hey B, just thought I'd let you know that Yoweri Museveni is now on peer review as you have contributed to it previously. I thought now was about the right time, as it would be good to get a feel for the kind of things people will say in WP:FAC now, rather than pressing ahead with expansion and then having to change a whole load of stuff later. TreveXtalk 11:06, 6 September 2005 (UTC)Reply