B C R M
Joined 1 April 2023
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Guerillero in topic April 2023
Show Boat edit
Please read the page that keeps getting linked for you: WP:Original research. This explains what it is and why you need to stop. Please also don’t WP:Edit War, but discuss the matter on the article’s talk page. Failure to follow the guidelines around edit warring can lead to your account being blocked: discussion is the way forward. - SchroCat (talk) 02:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- The article does not distinguish the five principal singing roles. This is an obvious deficiency. Perhaps you could make the addition yourself if you don't like the two methods I have tried (asterisks and footnote)? B C R M (talk) 10:32, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- The problem is that we disagree with you that there is an obvious deficiency, or, in fact, any deficiency. The plot summary and list of musical numbers should make it clear which roles are more important than others, not an uncited assertion by Wikipedia editors. If you have an authoritative source that states that these roles are the "principal" ones, and no other ones are "principal", you could state in a footnote that according to so-and-so, these roles are the "principal" ones, but people disagree on the meaning of "principal" in musicals. Some consider them to be the "leading" roles, others consider them to be all the roles that have any substantial singing or dialogue (as opposed to chorus roles), while still others consider them to be different from "featured" roles. So what you want to do is not actually helpful at all. As I said, the most helpful thing is to make sure that the plot summary indicates what the characters do in the story in proportion to their actual importance and stage time. -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:05, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, here is a good example of the point you are making. Stageagent.com lists the "leads" and "supporting" roles for Show Boat. It would be easy for me to cite this to overcome your objection. But Stageagent is a bad source. Mrs Hawks is not a principal singing role whereas Queenie is. I know this; Stageagent does not, being a mindless database. B C R M (talk) 15:38, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- The problem is that we disagree with you that there is an obvious deficiency, or, in fact, any deficiency. The plot summary and list of musical numbers should make it clear which roles are more important than others, not an uncited assertion by Wikipedia editors. If you have an authoritative source that states that these roles are the "principal" ones, and no other ones are "principal", you could state in a footnote that according to so-and-so, these roles are the "principal" ones, but people disagree on the meaning of "principal" in musicals. Some consider them to be the "leading" roles, others consider them to be all the roles that have any substantial singing or dialogue (as opposed to chorus roles), while still others consider them to be different from "featured" roles. So what you want to do is not actually helpful at all. As I said, the most helpful thing is to make sure that the plot summary indicates what the characters do in the story in proportion to their actual importance and stage time. -- Ssilvers (talk) 13:05, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
April 2023 edit
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