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Eomuk

Brizzro (talk) 07:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC) why did you undo my editing?

Brizzro (talk) 07:17, 28 July 2017 (UTC) the spelling you are using for fishcake is wrong. it is "Amook" not eoumok. Why do you guys insist on using wrong spelling? which source are you using for your spelling? whats your back up?

@Brizzro: Hi, Brizzro! "Fishcake" and "eomuk" are not synonyms. The article's coverage is wider and the template image needn't be changed. If you want to write more on eomuk, pleae do so under the Korea section of the article. Also, the spelling amook is not in accordance with Revised Romanization of Korean (nor McCune–Reischauer nor Yale). --Azeite (talk) 07:24, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Brizzro (talk) 07:33, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I want to inform you that fishcake originated from Japan, and went over to Korea chronologically. This article is an informative article, however it is written in a very limited point of view ( I am guessing the person who wrote this is from English culture). Thus, it seems appropriate to mention on the top of the article about the originality. Not only under Korea section.

And i dont agree with the fact that "Amook" and "Fishcake" are not synonyms. As mentioned above, fishcake is originated from Japan. I dont see exactly what type of "Fishcake" is this article trying to explain. For this matter, in fact, the article should be reviewed again and written by the experts of east asian foods.

@Brizzro: Not all fishcakes around the world originated in Japan. Maybe the Korean varieties did. Pastéis de bacalhau, for example, is a fishcake from Portugal. I'm a Korean myself, by the way. --Azeite (talk) 07:43, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

@Azeite: Hi, fishcake is a very general term. It seems meaningless to argue about the historical fact. The base or the idea of fishcake in terms of food originated from Japan. The Portugal food you mentioned should be considered as variation too. My point is, if you intend to keep this article as it is, my deleted article should remain as separate article. I mean the reason for my article's deletion was due to the fact that Wiki experts considered as a duplication version of this article, which then contradicts your statement above (synonyms). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brizzro (talk • contribs) 07:55, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

@Brizzro: Well, the Korean word "어묵" and the English word "fish cake" are synonyms, aren't they? In English language usage, on the other hand, the loanword "eomuk" refers to a type of fishcake, which is a wider concept. Just like in Korean language, the loan word "파스텔 드 바칼랴우" refers to a type of "어묵", which is a wider concept. (I mean, you can say that "Eomuk are Korean fishcakes." in English, but you can't say "어묵은 한국 음식이다." in Korean, as you call Japanese, Portuguese, and Thai fish cakes as 어묵 as well in Korean. You can say "가마보코는 일본 어묵이다." in Korean, but you can't say "Kamaboko are Japanese eomuk." in English. That's what I meant when I said "fishcake" and "eomuk" aren't synonyms.) I think it's quite reasonable to have eomuk under the "Korea" section of the "Fish cake" article in English Wikipedia. --Azeite (talk) 08:03, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

@Azeite: Ok, so aside from the coverage issue, i want to discuss about the spelling issue that we have. I am not insisting that 어묵 should be spelled only like that, but "Amook" is the closet pronunciation to 'ㅓ' sound. I mean, can you think of an English word that contains "e" and "o" and pronounces as "어"? this is the link to the website that i found, it lists all the English words with 'e' and 'o' in it. Just to give you quick insight, for example, the term "Geography" is not pronounced as "지어". Same applies for archaeology. In this sense, it is fair to spell 어묵 as "amook" instead of this confusing "eomuk".

@Brizzro: Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Korea-related articles. It says Revised Romanization is recommended unless the article is mainly North Korea-related (in which case, McCune–Reischauer romanization is used). Pronunciations are annotated using the IPA characters, not through the spelling (See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Pronunciation) because English spellings are, as you said, confusing. ⟨A⟩ has many pronunciations in English (See Pronunciation of English ⟨a⟩). --Azeite (talk) 09:05, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Kombu

You did merge the article Kombu into Saccharina japonica on 29th July 2017‎, without any prior discussion. Could you explain it in the Talk:Saccharina_japonica? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Froggieboy (talk • contribs) 12:38, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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