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Your submission at Articles for creation: SAP Sailing Analytics (August 27)

Latest comment: 9 months ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Hammersoft were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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Hammersoft (talk) 02:08, 27 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Your submission at Articles for creation: SAP Sailing Analytics (August 28)

Latest comment: 8 months ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Johannes Maximilian were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This draft needs some major rewriting. I looked through all the references and I had to remove 10 references because they were totally unrelated to this draft's subject or because they referred to sources that don't qualify as Wikipedia sources. The remaining 22 references refer to sources that hardly indicate why Wikipedia would have an article on the topic. Various sources are WP:SIRS-compliant, i.e., they could be used to demonstrate why the topic is notable, however, I have doubts about some of these, and all sources that could indicate notability are topic-specific sources. Topic-specific sources are generally less suited for establishing notability. Nonetheless, additional WP:SIRS-compliant sources could help demonstrating the topic's notability.

The draft's tone is mostly okay and the text has only few grammar mistakes, but it's obvious that it was composed by a native German speaker.

The technology section remains largely unreferenced and needs some additional sources before the draft can be accepted. Note that Google Play and the AppStore don't qualify as sources for Wikipedia. The overall sourcing situation is also not good. 5/22 sources fail the WP:CTRL+F-test, 4/22 sources contain nothing more than passing mentions, 6/22 sources are obvious press releases, 3/22 sources are very likely SIRS-compliant, and 3/22 sources could be SIRS-compliant, but I have doubts, and 1/22 sources cannot be assessed due to a paywall. The sourcing needs significant improving before this can be accepted.

Seahorsemagazine (1): WP:SIRS-compliant
Yachtfernsehen (2): Just a passing mention
sapsailing.com (3): Obviously not independent
sail-world.com (4): Not even a passing mention
FuW (5): Not even a passing mention (but an acceptable source for the claim that Jim Hagemann Snabe is a sailor)
Financial Times (6): Behind a paywall
Marketscreener (7): Not an independent source
sail-world.com (8): Could be WP:SIRS-compliant, but I suspect a press release
extremesailingseries.com (9): Press release, not independent
sapsailing.com (10): Not independent
Sailing-Champnsleague (11): Press release, not independent, but reliable
webandsail (12): WP:SIRS-compliant
SAP Blog (13): Doesn't need any exaplaining, neither independent nor reliable
Spinsheet (14): No mention of SAP Sailing Analytics
Sailingworld (15): No mention of SAP Sailing Analytics
49er.org (16): Could be WP:SIRS-compliant
Sailing.org (17): Just a passing mention
Aarhus2018.sailing.org (18): Just a passing mention
DenHaag2023 (19): Just a passing mention
Sail-World.com (20): Could be WP:SIRS-compliant, but there is not author information (i.e., it could be a press release)
Australiansailingteam (21): Not even a passing mention
Teschke (22): An acceptable WP:SIRS-compliant source, but it doesn't contain the term "Python". And the pages make sense, but 18-31 is a wide range of pages.

Best regards, --Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 09:33, 28 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

The Ctrl-F search may not always be useful, I'm afraid. Sources may only reference the fact that SAP was supporting the event with analytics, etc., so the literal name "SAP Sailing Analytics" may not always occur, yet, in most cases the links provided by those sites lead to the sapsailing.com site, directly or indirectly, and probably to one of the various sub-sites create for those specific events, later archived to (www.)sapsailing.com.

Please re-consider and let me know which changes would be required. I still think that the sailing community is very well aware of the SAP Sailing Analytics and may benefit from it being described here. Axeluhl (talk) 23:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:SAP Sailing Analytics and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 09:33, 28 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

AfC notification: Draft:SAP Sailing Analytics has a new comment

Latest comment: 6 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:SAP Sailing Analytics. Thanks! Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 14:36, 22 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

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