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Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

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Red link cats

Please do not remove Category:Wikipedians with red-linked categories on their user talk page from other users' pages. EvergreenFir (talk) 07:15, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: OK, but why? It is a category that was discussed and determined to be unwanted. Besides that, the only redlinked category on at least some of the pages is this category itself. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I missed that discussion. I took the removals as just "red cat = remove" so I apologize if I missed it. Can you link me to it? EvergreenFir (talk) 07:20, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Sure: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 March 2#Category:Wikipedians with red-linked categories on their user talk page. Its even create-protected. There's also Category:Wikipedians with red-linked categories on their user page, which was apparently deleted pursuant to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 March 26#Category:Wikipedians in red-linked categories. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:26, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

My understanding is that it was salted to ensure it remained red, thus preserving the joke. Nyttend's 2017 deletion reason seems to support that. EvergreenFir (talk) 07:30, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

[edit conflict] You didn't actually read those discussions, did you? In the nomination rationale: "Note that when this is deleted, a bot should not remove it from the pages which use it." Because the pages which use it should be allowed to continue to use it with it red. Are you a bot? Even if not, you should respect that. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:31, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

No, I didn't, and no, I'm not a bot. I abjectly apologize. --Auntof6 (talk) 07:35, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

No worries. I figured it was a misunderstanding of the purpose of the category. I appreciate the clean up effort though! EvergreenFir (talk) 07:44, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, what the tree said. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:52, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Also, please read and respect the notices at the top of my talk page archives, the ones that say in big bold letters "Do not edit the contents of this page". As for why: the category is deliberately redlinked. That's the joke. It is supposed to be a redlinked category for the talk page editors who think that putting it on their talk page is amusing. Some humor-impaired editor created it anyway, and it was deleted because it was never supposed to exist. Despite that creation and deletion, it is not helpful, and equally humor-impaired, to remove the category from user talk pages that list it. And it completely misses the point to use its deletion as a reason for removal. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:21, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedians with red lynx cats on their user page

-EEng

This is the second time in 30 days where a user has tried to remove this category from people's userpages. What's up? May His Shadow Fall Upon You ● 📧 14:01, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Me too. first such second such

Suggestions as to how to better document the purpose of the cat welcome. I'll ping Dmehus here but I see they are on a Wikibreak.

It may be that a notice or caution could be put into the automated tools. This user used Cat-a-lot. I wonder whether the previous one was also in some way automated. Andrewa (talk) 20:09, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Andrewa, Thanks for the ping. In my case, I removed the categories manually, but that was before I'd understood it was an inside joke (can't remember who told me it was). It's kind of an odd inside joke in that it's difficult to realize. Can we add editnotices to deleted categories wherein it would be displayed on the page for/of the deleted category, not just on the edit screen of said category? This way, we could add a note that it's an inside joke.

Personally, I wondered why we didn't just create a category, but then the category link would be blue, which doesn't jive with the whole "red-linked categories" joke.

At least everyone was good natured about my faux pas. And despite my open invitation to someone trouting me, no one took up the offer. Doug Mehus T·C 01:08, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Well cats do like trout. EEng 08:57, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

I would like on reflection to commend both Auntof6 and Dmehus for their diligence in wikignoming and more important for their grace when caught out by what is after all a joke at their expense by myself and others. The purpose of this joke is to help us all to lighten up and enjoy Wikipedia. Humour helps keep me motivated when things don't go my way.

As Scrooge McDuck once said, "Fun at someone else's expense isn't fun at all". Or as someone once told me, a joke at someone else's expense is funny if and only if the victim laughs too. I have been the victim of some unfunny humour over the years. I guess we all have.

I'd like to keep the redlinked cat on my user page. But it only improves Wikipedia if we can all laugh at incidents such as these. Andrewa (talk) 08:52, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

@Andrewa: Thanks. :) --Auntof6 (talk) 09:36, 7 December 2019 (UTC)