Asggerr
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October 2016 edit
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Germans, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 13:42, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of File:German ancestry by Country.png edit
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You may think that what you're doing is new and creative, but it isn't. Creating a new account, waiting a few days, and then making enough pointless edits (as you did on Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Biology) to become autoconfirmed, and then change data in the article to random numbers, as you have done, is neither new nor creative. The only slight new twist is creating an image based on your own data, giving it almost exactly the same name as the previous image, and then adding it to the article. But that has been reverted too. So stop. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 13:52, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
October 2016 edit
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Germans. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 13:58, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of File:German Ancestry bu Country, 2014.png edit
A tag has been placed on File:German Ancestry bu Country, 2014.png requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 14:01, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of File:German Ancestry by Country.png edit
A tag has been placed on File:German Ancestry by Country.png requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
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October 2016 edit
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Katietalk 14:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Asggerr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
WTF why did you block me? I provided sources to my edits. Can you please stop using your status here to threat people?
Decline reason:
I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that
- the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
- the block is no longer necessary because you
- understand what you have been blocked for,
- will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
- will make useful contributions instead.
Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:33, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
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- (edit conflict) No, you did not provide new sources, but kept the sources that were already in the article. Except for your last edits where you replaced one of the old sources with ''http://www.infoescola.com/historia/colonizacao-alema-no-sul-do-brasil/'', a source (in Portuguese) that does NOT support your edits, and in fact makes no mention at all of how many people of German descent there currently are in Brazil. Which combined with all the rest (see my comment further up) makes this a vandalism only account. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 14:40, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Asggerr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Now I understand why I've been blocked. My new sources did not supported my edits. Also, i just edited someone's work(image) and claimed that it was my own work). All these faults can be justify because I didn't read the edit rules. I won't try to make any further edits without respecting Wikipedia rules. The only thing that bothers me is the fact that the amount of Germans in Brazil won't lead to any sources that work at all. That's why I tried to edited it.
Decline reason:
"Oh, there's data with the reference links broken - I'll go ahead and fake it." Sorry, that attitude is not welcome on Wikipedia. Huon (talk) 22:42, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
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- No, you were blocked because the sum of your edits shows that you, already from the start, intended to vandalise a semi-protected article here (Germans) by deliberately introducing fake data, in an elaborate scheme that even included creating a fake map that, apart from showing your fake data instead of real properly sourced data, was identical to the original image, and even was given a name that was identical to the name of the real image, except for the capitalisation of a single letter in the file name. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 13:41, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Asggerr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I'm sorry, but have you read my request? I didn't do it on porpoise. I recognize that I edited a image that was not mine and claim that it was. About the sources, I provided one source to my edits, but it's in Portuguese and it actually support my edits. In fact, if you unblock me, i'll edit and provide sources. There are actually 5 million Brazilians with German ancestry in Brazil. Asggerr (talk) 11:20 pm, Yesterday (UTC+2)
Decline reason:
I kindly asked you to say what kind of edits you want to make if unblocked. You failed to do so. I can't unblock you if you intend to continue the same behavior if unblocked. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:11, 16 October 2016 (UTC) Vanjagenije (talk) 21:11, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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- If there is such a source, why not provide it here so others can review it? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:39, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Comment to Asgerr: Then why did you repeatedly add totally different figures for the number of people of German descent in Brazil (ranging from 750,000 to 2,500,000? Numbers that are totally ridiculous since the number of people of German descent in Brazil who still speak (and actively use) the German language (or to be more precise Riograndenser Hunsrückisch German) is about three million (according to Ethnologue). Five million (which can be found in another article here) is a claim that is sourced only to a blog/personal website, and a quick search on Google yields claims of 12-18 million. Which means that A) the current figure in the article is a reasonable estimate, and B) what you added to the article were just made up numbers, i.e. vandalism. Which is why you were blocked, and with all probability will remain blocked (and no, the source in Portuguese does not support your edits...). (also pinging Boing! said Zebedee) - Tom | Thomas.W talk 21:53, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- @KrakatoaKatie: Can you show me some examples of vandalism by this "vandalism only account"? I don't see any. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:30, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Vanjagenije: Sorry I'm late, but I was in airports and on planes all day Monday. In summary:
- His first three edits with this account were okay, then he did this
- Then there's a series of edits adding, then deleting, a comma at Wikipedia:Pages needing attention/Biology. That's seeking autoconfirmed status, no question.
- Then he begins a slew of unsourced statistical changes to Germans, a semi-protected article. In one instance, he kept the current source and simply changed the numbers, and now he's claiming the old source supports his new numbers. In another, he uses a source to say there are 1,000,000 native speakers in Brazil, then minutes later uses the same source to say there are 750,000.
- Then he creates a map that he says is based on the article. He did this by taking the existing map, capitalizing the 'C' in 'country', and populating it with his fake data. Thomas.W correctly nominated it and RHaworth correctly deleted it under G3.
- He goes back to the Germans article and inserts his map, using it to support his edits to the article. It's a big circle of circular goodness. When it's deleted, he's undeterred and keeps changing the numbers until he's blocked.
- And now he's saying, in his unblock requests, that he wants to change the Brazil number to 5,000,000, his third unsupported change.
- I call vandalism-only. I also have suspicions that this is not a new user, given his familiarity with markup. Katietalk 14:52, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it's most probably not a new user, but someone who has done these things before (writing "on porpoise" instead of "on purpose" in the unblock request makes me believe it's a New Yorker, BTW, in case a repeat vandal from NYC rings a bell somewhere...). - Tom | Thomas.W talk 15:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Asggerr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Sigh... I won't explain myself again. You can read my unblock requests above. And yes, that's the first time I edit a Wikipedia page. I don't know how to prove that to be honest. I did make about 10 edits before that page just to get auto confirmed because that's the only page I had in mind. If that's against Wikipedia rules, you have all the right to keep me blocked. I have different sources(in Portuguese) that tells me the number of Brazilians of German ancestry goes from 2,5 million to 5 million, but i don't know where those 12 million come from. I'm actually Brazilian(see my IP if that's possible) and I learn in school that there are about 5 million living here(most mixed with Portuguese and Italian), in the south region. If my explanation is not enough to unblock me, please at least change that number, it doesn't make sense since 250,000 germans came to here. And here's a trustful source(I think): http://www.dw.com/pt-br/as-diferentes-fases-da-imigra%C3%A7%C3%A3o-alem%C3%A3-no-brasil/a-1195367. It's in Portuguese though.Asggerr (talk) 20:09, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Technical decline, as the previous request is still open and under review. If you wish to comment or reply, just do so without putting it in a new unblock request. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:41, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
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- According to this article on Al Jazeera's web site 12 million people in Brazil (the number given in Germans) claimed to be of German descent in the Brazilian census of 2000, which trumps mere guesstimates like the one you linked to. But it doesn't really matter whether the true number is five million or twelve million, what matters here is that you made several different, and very low, claims in your edits, ranging from 750K to 2.5M, all of them without sources, and obviously just made-up numbers. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 20:46, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- You're not doing yourself any favors with these duplicate requests. The reviewing administrator has not edited since I replied to him. Stop filling up our queues with your impatience. Katietalk 22:35, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Asggerr: What kind of edits do you intend to make if unblock? Do you intend to edit Germans article again? Would you agree to a wp:topic ban on Germans if unblocked? Vanjagenije (talk) 13:53, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Asggerr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
HERE WE GO. There are more people in South Brazil with Italian ancestry than German. There are more people with Portuguese ancestry in South Brazil than German. South Brazil has 30 million people. According to you, there are 12 million Brazilians with German ancestry in the South. That doesn't make any sense. Do the math. Someone or some article just pulled this 12 million number out of their... wherever. Good job keeping a fake number on a Wikipedia page. Good job adm. Asggerr (talk) 18:49, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Procedural decline. Previous unblock request is still open. You were already told not to post new unblock requests while the previous one is still pending. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:09, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
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- ???? Noone has claimed that there are 12 million people of German descent in South Brazil. There are plenty of people of German descent in other parts of Brazil too (a 1998 survey showed that 5.51% of a random selection of 90,000 people in a number of major cities in Brazil, including Sao Paolo and Rio de Janeiro, were of German descent...). So don't try to change subject, and make this seem as something it isn't. It's a bit odd BTW that you haven't been heard from for several days now, during which time another editor, with an editing style very similar to yours, has made edits roughly similar to yours, i.e. fighting hard to lower the number of German Brazilians (on German Brazilians and Germans), as well as trying to remove content showing a large portion of European genes in Brazil on Brazilians, but now that the other editor has been told that continued disruptive editing might lead to a block you all of a sudden show up again with a new unblock request... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 19:16, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
Asggerr (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
According to IBGE(Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistic), almost all German Brazilians are located in the South Region, because immigration of Volga German was nonexistent in other parts. The same thing happened with Ukrainians, Poles and Russians. And according to the same institute, roughly 250,000 Volga Germans came to Brazil from the XIX century to mid 1900's. And btw, I'm not trying to make any edits, since I CAN'T. Asggerr (talk) 21:12, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This is a continuation of an argument, not an unblock request. Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:56, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
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