Arsalan91

Removal of text in Interracial marriage

Dear Arsalan91,

1. There was indeed no source for the information attributed to The Genographic Project.

2. There seems to be a misunderstanding about the "marriage between European men and Muslim women from the Middle East". These European men were all (or almost all) Muslims, but this is irrelevant: the article is about interracial marriage, not interfaith marriage. Talking about "marriage between European men (who were or had become Muslim) and Muslim women from the Middle East" would avoid the misunderstanding, but would be equally irrelevant. "Marriage between European men and women from the Middle East" would be better. Unfortunately, there is no no source except Wikipedia (janissaries and Kouloughli). Note that the French version clearly states that the fr:Kouloughlis' fathers were mostly janissaries, but does not provide any source. Maybe Patrick Kinross mentions this in The Ottoman Centuries: The Rise and Fall of the Turkish Empire London: Perennial, 1977?

By the way, there has been a number of marriages between crusaders and local ladies, not to mention - a little north - Aleksandra Lisowska, better known as Roxelana, the Ukrainian wife of Suleiman the Magnificent.

3. There is nothing wrong in the section on North Africa, except the absence of source and the fact that intermarriages also involved (in lesser numbers?) European women.

4. Apart from the misunderstanding mentioned above, what are the other cases of "high degree of irrelevance"? --Touchatou (talk) 01:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)