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The article about Cope Bros & Co is nice. I'll polish it a bit, if you do not mind, but I've also got a whole load of stuff to add to the thing. I am just wondering if you have copies or links to the sources that you have already used - they might be helpful. - Sitush (talk) 14:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Yes please polish. I can do the research but my English is bad :) The sources are mainly newspaper articles from Gales Databases http://www.gale.cengage.com/.19th Century British Library Newspapers Feb 2012 and the Times. I have the images if you want them . There isn't much online otherwise. The rest is from the Copes Smoke room booklets and family archives.

I only write in two languages: English and Gibberish. Some say my ability in the latter is better than it is in the former. Is Gales a subscription service? I've got vague memories of it. - Sitush (talk) 14:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry only just saw your last question. Yes Gales is subscription. Fortuitousness my employer pays :) Anthony Cope (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

No problem! In that case, is there any chance of your emailing the things, please? I do not doubt what you have written, by the way, but am wondering whether there may be some leads that might be followed. Many people set up a throwaway email account (using gmail or similar) for use on Wikipedia, basically to keep the spammers and trolls at bay and to retain privacy on their normal account. I can talk you through the steps if you need any help. - Sitush (talk) 20:11, 9 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yeah I can send themI have quite a few :) Where shall I send them Anthony Cope (talk) 20:15, 9 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

That's brilliant, thanks. In order to avoid showing email addresses on the website, which could then be harvested by spammers etc, there is a basic email notification system. If you go into "My Preferences" at top right of the page then there is a box where you can enter your email address. Once that is done, and you have saved that page and left it, there will be an "Email user" line showing in the menu on the left of the screen when someone visits this talk page etc. And when you visit someone else's then you will see the same thing. I'll sort things out from there. No rush, by the way.
As an extreme example of what is possible, take a look at Churchill Machine Tool Company - an article that I rescued from deletion around this time last year and took to being a Good Article. You might be surprised how far the Cope Bros one might go! - Sitush (talk) 20:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks for your work. Interesting to read the conversation above and see consensus come out of a bit of banter rather than snarking. Well done Victuallers (talk) 09:17, 16 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for the new articles that you have started recently, Monmouth Cemetery and Monmouth Workhouse. I have wikified both of them slightly to make them closer to the Wikipedia house style. I hope you don't mind. I have also added both pages to the MonmouthpediA WikiProject by altering their talk pages. If you need any help or advice, please reply here or on my talk page. welsh (talk) 20:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for that ... I'm getting the hang of it slowly...but not fast enough :) Antarchie (talk) 20:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Re: your comment above, you are doing just fine. I am trawling through the Cope material, which is fascinating stuff. When I get to the point of using it then there may be a fiddly issue to contend with because we really should include page numbers for off-line newspapers. Most of the clippings do not have the things & so I might have to try to do a reverse search or something to get that info. I think that the best plan is to insert it and then trawl through for page numbers where they are necessary. It's great research on your part - I hope that you enjoyed it! - Sitush (talk) 14:25, 21 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yeah thanks! I should be able to back track to get the news paper page numbers. I have done it before a few times. thanks for the cope help. Its really good that someone else is doing it be I am probably although really trying not to be bias as they are family. Did you like the article about Copes giving tobacco to the Hospital my goodness how wrong is that :) Antarchie (talk) 15:32, 21 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I noticed your "OMG" at the start of the file name. You perhaps do not know that smoking tobacco was considered by many doctors to be a cure for chest ailments, presumably on the grounds that it made you cough up the gunk etc. TB etc was rife at that time. Of course, the "it's good for you" line was pushed also by the baccy companies themselves, alongside the glamour ("you're never alone with a Strand") and all the other hype. Even today, the difference between most pushers of products (any product) and snake-oil salesmen is not that great! And the "Guinness is good for you" campaign of my childhood, although banned in this country, is still going down great guns in, IIRC, Nigeria. Honest. - Sitush (talk) 16:33, 21 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

Archiving

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Hi! You might want to look at Help:Archiving a talk page. It's generally considered better practice to archive rather than delete old threads - deleting them might wrongly suggest you're trying to hide something! Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

ok will do ..thanks Antarchie (talk) 08:54, 23 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks Victuallers (talk) 16:01, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Brilliant. Anthony Cope (talk) 19:30, 4 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
8,000 people read about it! thats pretty impressive.
I was looking at the new pictures loaded by Monmouth Museum - I noticed there were a few mayors and I notice you've been picking away at that article. Are you going to be there in Monmouth in 2 weeks?? Victuallers (talk) 16:37, 9 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

8000 sounds good. Yes I am planing on coming . Hope to meet you then. I was looking at those new pictures the Museum added and I notice that the copyright may be unsafe as there is no copyright tag. Anybody following that up? I guess they could be deleted? Anthony Cope (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

I'm coming to Monmouth to solve this problem on Thursday/Friday today as the museum have not understood what they needed to do. It is a different way for them to operate which we need to support. Its too easy for them to just do what they have always done. Would you be interested in joining us on Thursday night for a drink? Victuallers (talk) 06:49, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply
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I think you might find a picture here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Victuallers

I'm not sure what the house looks like. Cannot believe how many articles we are getting! Victuallers (talk) 06:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Thanks...thats not the house though. I will take a picture today if I get chance. They will think I'm a tourist :) Anthony Cope (talk) 07:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Just went to photograph the building and there is a huge removal Van in the way :( Anthony Cope (talk) 13:10, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Van went got it now :) Anthony Cope (talk) 14:51, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Wow - thats impressive, fancy a beer tomorrow night in Monmouth?

Sorry cant make that ..small baby ...wife not signed off on that ..permission denied ...lol Anthony Cope (talk) 15:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Well bring both of them eventually! How many listed pubs are left? Victuallers (talk) 09:04, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Good question! :) are going to visit all of them this evening lol. I dont think there are many still open. The Griffin is one of them but not much history info. Coach House Restaurant is one..used to be called the Black Swan Pub, Priory House Conservative Club sort of a pub and formerly non political club. Might tackle that one next. BTW, no-one has assessed 1 Monk Street, Monmouth has it been over looked or waiting for me to say its finished? :)


Monmouth Viaduct

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thanks for noticing they were cubic yards :)Anthony Cope (talk) 22:42, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

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We we in your pub last night! The quiz was good although we didnt win. Next time! The Gatehouse article has some issues (see talk page). What do you think of my suggestion? Would you be wi8loling to bring this together? Victuallers (talk) 08:07, 4 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Sorry I missed the quiz. I'm surprised you didnt win!. I saw the the gatehouse notability criticism yesterday and last night I found that the pub had a mention in another one of Keith Kissacks books on Monmouths buildings, hoping to appease the "not notable enough" critics so I put a paragraph in on that one. Is that not enough? How many books does it need to be mentioned in to be to have "Significant coverage"? . The 24 Church street notability criticism I can understand, but this one I am having trouble with. Maybe I am a bit dull .. lol . No objection to combining the pubs in one article as such but doesn't this that mean we lose the geo referencing per page and the QR codes become not so helpful? The pubs would not appear as individual Geo references ? Also if you stand outside the pub and scan the QRCode would you need to trawl though all the pubs a-g before getting to the gatehouse.? Maybe a I have it wrong? I think I am less enthused at combined article on this subject probably becuase I spend to much time in pubs listening to the history from the landlords :) Anthony Cope (talk) 09:37, 4 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Times archive

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Hi, I am still reading around the Cope stuff and it seems that I'll have to make a library trip, so things have stalled (aside from Wikimeets, I try to limit my trips to Manchester!) On an unrelated issue, can you see The Times of 27 November 1905? I am seeking an obituary. - Sitush (talk) 10:01, 16 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

Should be able to find the Obits if you can give me the name and I can look for it Anthony Cope (talk) 12:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Ta. The wonderfully designated Jervoise_Athelstane_Baines. (I am not going to make a habit of this, btw: I usually use WP:RX but I want to wrap this one up quickly and move on). - Sitush (talk) 12:07, 16 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
no obits for 1905-6 did get one for The Times, Friday, Nov 27, 1925; pg. 9; Issue 44130; col D Obituary. Sir Athelstane Baines Shall I email? can remember what address I used for you ...may have to wait until this eveningAnthony Cope (talk) 12:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
All fingers and fumbs, me! Sorry, 1905 was a typo (year of death of someone else whom I am working on). I'll drop you a mail, then you'll have my email address again. Don't go out of your way to push it through: I've got a couple of other sources on the boil at the moment. I very grateful to you. - Sitush (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
On its way :) Anthony Cope (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)Reply
Got it. Thanks again. - Sitush (talk) 16:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for the almost superhuman effort you have put into Monmouth related articles, hopefully we can go for a quiz in one of the pubs you've written about :) Mrjohncummings (talk) 16:37, 11 June 2012 (UTC)Reply
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Remember me asking if there was another town you knew in as much detail .... Oh and some plaques are going up in Monmouth in next few (weeks?) Victuallers (talk) 12:43, 29 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

 
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Sadly I don't know much about Gibraltar . But happily I now know where to go for such information :) I still have lots to add to Monmouth including a few postcards that I have collected since the projects second challenge. I will add them ASAP --Anthony Cope (talk) 18:23, 29 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

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Dear Anthony, I hope you are keeping well. I've begun a discussion at the Talkpage of the above as to whether the article warrants retention. I'd be interested in your thoughts. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 09:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)Reply