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Edit to George Müller article

Hi, you added a couple of citations to this article, but although the birth and death years are the same, you give the subject's name as George Friedrich Müller, whereas the article relates to Johann Georg Ferdinand - are you sure it's the same person? Silver Shiney (talk) 18:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

@Silver Shiney: It's definitely the same person (the ODNB article is an update of the 1901 DNB article) though there seems to be a discrepancy with the exact forenames, which isn't incredibly uncommon for the period. The ODNB has the same picture and begins "Müller, George Friedrich (1805–1898), preacher and philanthropist, was born at Kroppenstaedt, Prussia, on 27 September 1805, the son of John Frederick Müller (d. 1840)", all of which matches perfectly bar the naming.
Most external sources that I can access simply use "George" or "Georg", and don't give middle names. The LoC authority file has "Müller, Georg Friedrich, 1805-1898" as an alternative name, which agrees (give or take Anglicisation) with the ODNB. Our article doesn't seem to cite where the names it uses came from - and sadly nor does the ODNB, they don't do footnotes - but the German Wikipedia does - it seems to be taken from the school records in Halberstadt. I wonder if he later altered the style he used? Per the German Wikipedia, he formally went by "George Müller" at the time of naturalisation in the UK. Either way, definitely the same person! Andrew Gray (talk) 22:40, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
@Andrew Gray: Intriguing! Many thanks for taking the time to reply. Kind regardsSilver Shiney (talk) 08:07, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

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The Haliwa-Saponi's article and talk page continues to get vandal by user 184.0.130.188 They had a warning on their talk page other day by another user for same thing but it appears the person may be deleting their own talk page or something as the warnings disappear. It appears they are attempting to wipe out the talk page as well. *edit: I noticed theystill have 1 warning but on one of their other talk pages, they have a different ip each time, other ip's they used is , 184.0.128.214, 184.0.134.37, 184.0.134.55

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Peter Brotherhood

Hi. I'm sure you felt there was good reason to do this so - why did you change the ref to the online edition? Eddaido (talk) 23:22, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

@Eddaido:: Hi! This is part of a small project I've been working on for some time, to try and get ODNB citations linked to the online version where appropriate. (There are a surprising number of articles which just have things like "source: ODNB" with no further details, or bare unformatted links). It's taken a couple of years to get to the point of being able to do the updating, as we ended up getting sidetracked into building an index of them all on Wikidata first...
Overall, I do think this is an improvement in (almost?) all cases. With the citation to the online edition, readers can follow it up (it is unfortunately paywalled, but it's relatively accessible by the standards of such resources). There's generally no material difference between the online and print editions (save any corrections made to the online one) and so I don't feel we're losing any information or confusing matters by directing people to online rather than print.
Incidentally, it seems he was also in the old DNB: s:Brotherhood, Peter (DNB12). Do you think it's worth adding a link as well? The old article's not as clearly written but it is openly accessible. Andrew Gray (talk) 18:26, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Andrew, knew there'd be good reason. I understand no one has ever been dropped from the DNB -> ODNB, no harm in adding a citation but it does seem little benefit either. Online ODNB freely accessible through local libraries for most who might be interested though true, they may not be aware of it. I leave it to your expert judgment. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 22:55, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

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