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Regarding your change to the Victoria article -- please look at bar 18 in the cantus: http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/pdf/Sancta_Maria_Succurre_Miseris.pdf -- it's a diminished fourth, not diminished fifth. The diminished fourth appears in Renaissance music, especially late in the 16th century, as an exceptional interval denoting some strong sentiment, particularly grief. You can find it in Lassus, Victoria, and any number of madrigalists. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2009 (UTC)Reply