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Just Curious edit

I contacted several users on how I could possibly join a project, and they haven't replied back. Am I contacting them in a wrong way so they don't know, or are they just busy or something? --Signor Pastrini 23:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

About redirect deletion edit

Thank you for pointing out my mistake.

I found the redirects useless but after reading the guidelines and knowing that wikipedia actually doesn't care I'll leave them as they are. Bragador 01:27, 29 October 2005 (UTC)Reply


MOO edit

Since you transfered history for PythonMOO, may I also bring to your attention that the history for LambdaMOO, FracturedMOO, LinguaMOO and MediaMOO have not been transfered, so you are welcome to do so if you see fit.

I transfered PythonMOO because it had been deleted, making its edit history unavailable for anyone who is not an admin. The other articles you mentioned have not been deleted, and the previous history is available to everyone. --Allen3 talk 12:45, 30 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
Ah, good point, thanks. Ian 13 17:50, 8 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Power-assisted bicycles edit

I noticed you had reverted the Article for power-assisted bicycles (PABs) at one point. Was there a reason? The reason I ask is because I believe we should go back to building that page... seperate from electric bicycle and seperate from motorized bicycle. (I consider those as main categories of PABs). leave me a message! --CyclePat 06:37, 1 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Re: Syndicate (computer game) edit

Hi, the reason I blanked that page is because we're going to be working on it as a part of the WP:GCOTW. But fine, I won't change it until we've got some content to place on that page. Jacoplane 18:50, 2 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Scripture edit

Thanks for being bold enough to post Scripture on your userpage.--ViolinGirl 23:47, 5 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for the complement. --Allen3 talk 12:14, 6 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

I AM the anonymous author of the Gwragedd Annwn article. I initially posted it without an account, but I soon signed up for one. My username is yll and my full name is removed.

Soviet Union edit

Hi, thanks for tidying up after me, I didn't remember that it was supposed to go on the talk page until you moved it. - FrancisTyers 23:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Support please edit

I rather need some help, and you seem to be one of the most recently active admins I can find, so I was wondering if you could help. User:219.110.42.74 has been recently creating Japanese redirects, and rather a lot of them. I have left a note on their talk page, but I am not overly sure how to handle the situation. I don’t believe they are allowed, since there is already a Japanese WP (at ja.wikipedia.org), but any help enforcing or repairing damage, or even how to handle it would be much appreciated. Many thanks. Ian 13 11:56, 21 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Regarding the "Ebolaworld" deletion edit

Do not make notes whose only purpose is to undermine the credibility of the poster. The fact that a vote for non-deletion was the user's only post should not be a consideration when actually deciding whether or not to delete, as one persons comments are as valid as any others'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.148.166.5 (talkcontribs) 00:27, November 22, 2005 (UTC)

Actually there is official Wikipedia policy, WP:SOCK, that does indicate that persons who are new to Wikipedia may have their comments disregarded as they are not yet considered part of the Wikipedia community. --Allen3 talk 11:51, 22 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Invitation to collaberate edit

Hello, This is just a friendly invitation to invite you in on the collaberations that are currently happening with the article motorized bicycle and Timeline of Motorized bicycle history. --CyclePat 03:04, 27 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

African National Congress Youth League edit

I have rewritten the article so that it is about the ANC Youth League, a notable organisation founded by Nelson Mandela among others. I would be grateful if you could take a look. Capitalistroadster 18:04, 5 December 2005 (UTC)Reply


Variety Shac edit

I'm glad that you're concerned over citations to sources in Wikipedia. I did, however, cite sources in the new article on Variety Shac. As you can see from the page, I cited the group's website as well as the website of one of the members. If you'd like me to retitle that last sentence "References", I can do that, but I don't see how that will help with a stub.Mareino 16:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)Reply


Goodwood Circuit edit

Thanks for your pointers on the Goodwood circuit article - being new here, can you spare a minute that I have now Wikified it correctly. Thanks. Kcordina 14:30, 7 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thank You edit

Thank you for fixing the issue on INS Vikrant. I had reported it to the helpdesk. Your help is appreciated. --avnp* 12:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

Pan-African Congress revert edit

I disagree with your revert of my edit to a blank page. Incorrect information is worse than no information or a blank page. Pan-African Congress, a series of meetings in the 1900s that took place in London, New York, etc. should not redirect to a South African political party. Whether the page should be deleted or a new page created, reverting to show incorrect information rather than no information decreases accuracy. If I removed a redirect from Republic to Republican and left it blank, would you revert that? --Lucent 23:54, 10 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

  • Thank you for your reconsideration. I'm glad our disagreement was regarding the facts rather than aesthetics vs. accuracy. --Lucent 04:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

WP:V citations edit

You may be interested in Wikipedia talk:Verifiability#Citation format poll: Format of citations and WP:V examples, and WP:FN. (SEWilco 16:45, 15 December 2005 (UTC))Reply

Happy New Year edit

 
Wish you a happy and Prosperous New Year

Aravind Parvatikar

Evan Mecham edit

I got that from a website that attributed sources to local newspapers. It is also a very common fact around my area of residence that the Super Bowl was lost because of Mecham's action (and all agree that this guy's behavior is not what you consider as dignified). We can certainly debate this further and decide if this is truth of half-truth. I am open to any discussions about this matter! Arbiteroftruth 22:54, 2 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

The info was obtained from this website

http://jeff.scott.tripod.com/mecham.html

Hope it helps! Arbiteroftruth 05:42, 3 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Verizon MCI Merger edit

The reason I merged the documents was to reflect the ownership by verizon communications, and since the opposition's only concerns where over the history of MCI i went ahead with the merger I believe i faithfully preserved the history in the article merger at the same time of reflecting the the verizon merger nothing except the article tense was changed

€2cc FAC page edit

Hi! TantalumTelluride has changed the reference style. May I ask you to re-consider supporting? If not, could you please tell me in greater detail which sections need more sources before you would support? And regarding the list issue – I really think it is not; compare it, for example, to United Nations member states: That is a list. ;) Thanks for your input! —Nightstallion (?) 06:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

"4) This article is composed primarily of lists and needs to either be converted into prose or else moved to Wikipedia:Featured list candidates. --Allen3 talk 21:16, 10 January 2006 (UTC) [...] I still do not see any references supporting the inormation in the 2006 coinage or German Bundesländer series sections. --Allen3 talk 12:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)"

Both of those issues have now been addressed. Is that good enough for you to support, or is there anything else I can do? Thanks either way! —Nightstallion (?) 06:41, 13 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

On a related note: Could you take a look at User:Nightstallion/sandbox and tell me if the references are sufficient or whether you'd change anything about the article before putting it in articlespace and FLCing it? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! —Nightstallion (?) 22:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Deletions edit

We have edited the information down to the notes that we left since it says you can edit it. So that we are in compliance we are moving into the sandbox till we get an acceptable listing the way it is supposed to be with whatever is required. User:Wikistatman|Wikistatman]] 12:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

You had just deleted an article that I was already in discussion with ➥the Epopt. I am just wondering if everyone the world over gets to delete things even if others think that it should be ok? I am new here and just trying to figure out the rules.

Thanks

Thank you for your patience and your understanding

Delisting Unitary Executive theory from good articles edit

Please see my question at Talk:Unitary Executive theory. --TreyHarris 23:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Governors of Arizona edit

Thanks for putting me right. I was tricked by the numbers on List of Governors of Arizona. --Whouk (talk) 15:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Democratic response to 2006 State of the Union address edit

Would you mind if I removed the merge tag on Democratic response to 2006 State of the Union address and 2006 State of the Union address? Jiang originally had added it because there was so little content on the Democratic response page. KI 17:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

you deleted a page of mine edit

hi, i was just wondering why you deleted my band's page (the outliers). I don't mind that you did but i was just wondering if there was anything offensive in it or something so in future i don't make that mistake again.

This comment was from user:Ricarocks. -- user:zanimum

evan mecham... edit

I dont specifically know the reasons why Evan decided to rule against MLKs holiday so I chose my words very carefully. It has been proven that King plagarized his work and had ties to communists. His main advisor was Stanley Levison and a few others with communist ties. If you read the Martin Luther King page it has a lot of information about it from credible sources such as the NY times, USA Today which acknowledged kings plagarism. Most right wing groups that Evan is affiliated with do not support a King holiday for this very reason so I added the info to establish equilibruim. I dont think it is a matter of racism as the article indicates.

JJstroker 04:09, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

What do you mean? I directed you to MLK's page which says everything i am telling you. Please feel free to read it. In authorship issues you will see that officially 1/3rd of his work was plagarized when a heavy ammount can't be verified to if he was the original writer. The rest of the communist ties are there as well.

JJstroker 19:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

[QUOTE]What I am saying is that there does not appear to be any sources to tie Mecham's decision to cancel the MLK holiday to these charges against King. The closest I have found is from the Watkins book were it is claimed that the Arizona voters would have likely accepted such an arguement if it had been made. Without a source to show that King's actions were the reason for Mecham's cancelation, then any claim as to the specific reason is unverifiable and original research. The inclusion that "People question that if King was worthy of the honor..." sufferes from vauge wording that also makes verification difficult. --Allen3 talk 22:27, 12 February 2006 (UTC) [/QUOTE]

Oh ok. Yes I agree that I do not have the proper verification to confirm if the connection to my writing and Mecham is relevant. Given Mechams history I am positive that is why he is against the holiday (Although this is a POV and unsubstantiated) That is why I was sure to chose my words carefully. In general my statement is fairly accurate and is technically correct; smears of racism can be refuted to this argument, although the question is if it is a legitimate reason why Mecham doesnt support the holiday. I couldnt find it so I am hoping if you can offer any type of assistance to find the information or find a suitable alternative to the section. Hopefully we can work this out.

JJstroker 08:27, 13 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

The previous governor, Bruce Babbitt, issued a May 18, 1986 proclamation to designate a State MLK holiday on the same day as the Federal holiday that was already in effect, 9 days after the AZ legislature had defeated the holiday by 1 vote.

Upon taking office 7 months later, Evan Mecham issued a proclamation recinding Babbitt's previous proclamation on the grounds that the AZ Governor had no authority to declare state holidays and that this authority was held exclusively by legislature. This was proclaimed just 8 days prior to what would have been the first MLK celebration in AZ. If this, 'authority to recind but no authority to proclaim' thing doesn't sound ironic enough for you, stay tuned. In a move that many perceived as rubbing salt in the wound, Mecham later proclaimed (it seems that he completely changed his mind about that authority thing) that the previous Sunday would be MLK day in AZ - thus declaring MLK a non-holiday at best.

State holidays only affect State workers. Business and industry traditionally tie their holiday schedule policy to Federal holidays, religious holidays, or none at all.

Mecham was impeached for his crimes a few months later, saving him the embarassment of the recall election that was being driven by an outcry from voters based rather on his stupidity. A huge, undeclared campaign contribution, a rather questionable State loan to Mecham Pontiac, and interfering with the investigation of a death threat against a State employee investigating such things, made enough of a case. He denies that racism played any part in his decisions on MLK. You should form your own opinion from his more famous quotes during his brief, one-year term:

"I'm not against the blacks, and a lot of the good blacks will attest to that."

"I'm not a racist...I employ them [blacks] because they are the best people who applied for the cotton-picking job."

"As I was a boy growing up, blacks themselves referred to their children as pickaninnies."

"Well, the N.B.A., I guess they forget how many white people they get coming to watch them play." [Commenting in a Salt Lake City TV interview about the N.B.A. canceling a convention in Phoenix.]

MLK may have been an asshole, but if ever there was a contender for 1st prize in that...

bopeep 8/18/2006

My RfA edit

Hi Allen. I wanted to thank you for taking the time to consider my RfA, which passed this morning. If there's ever a project that I can help you with, just ask; you know where to find me. ×Meegs 09:12, 11 March 2006 (UTC)Reply  

Frank Zappa edit

The concerns you expressed at WP:FAC have been addressed to the best of my ability. Hamster Sandwich 22:43, 17 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Cowboys Are Frequently, Secretly Fond of Each Other edit

Aside from "Most sources speculate about the potential success of the song" what weasel words are used in the article? Thanks. Hyacinth 12:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Great. Thanks. Hyacinth 12:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Urgent admin intervention required edit

Hi, thanks for deleting the Caitlyn Walsh article a few moments ago. I found that page via New Pages and traced the submitter back. He/she has uploaded two images that appear to be highly inappropriate - I believe they are of an underage child and are pornographic. I have tagged them for speedy delete (didn't know what else to do...) but I think they need to be removed immediately. You can find them at: Image:Caityln walsh4jpg.jpg and Image:13-03-06 1653.jpg. Thanks, Gwernol 16:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have deleted the images. --Allen3 talk 17:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Many thanks. Much appreciated, Gwernol 18:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

/* Ebay/safepaymentpolicyemail3 20 2006 moved */ edit

Please see my reply to Bjones. I thought he moved it. Wikipedia is lagging so bad right now I can't tell. DyslexicEditor 19:08, 21 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Why was my Viva Hate page removed? edit

I don't understand why my page on the band Viva Hate was removed. Could you please explain? Hotdoglives 13:36, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, if it was a local band or something, it would make sense to not have a page for it. But Geoff Kresge is member, formerly of AFI, Tiger Army, and currently of the HorrorPops. I just think that since the band was formed by someone famous, that it is notable enough to have a page. Hotdoglives 13:53, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Alright, my bad. Now I know. Hotdoglives 14:16, 23 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I am sad edit

because you deleted my page.—Preceding unsigned comment added by JamieAdams (talkcontribs) 13:50, March 23, 2006 (UTC)

AfD edit

What is it if not where articles go to die? Kurt Weber 13:24, 25 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Not all articles nominated on AfD die (delete). Some are allowed to remain as vital growing articles (keep), while others are transplanted to other locations better suited to their needs (transwiki and userfy), or are retrained to serve useful functions in a new career (redirect). --Allen3 talk 13:46, 25 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

afd edit

I just saw Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nufayl ibn Abd al-Uzza, The nominator never informed me of it. I would have voted keep and added material. I also see that the afd has only been there for 5 days, and not 7. I request that you reopen the afd so i can participiate, or just undelete and renominate for afd. Peace. --Striver 19:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

That sounds fair. Ill do as you suggested, and contact you to get your approval of the changes i have in mind. Thanks and peace. --Striver 19:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Francis Brunn edit

Hi, I see you just speedied the Francis Brunn article. I was looking at it when you speedied it, thinking it should be tagged as {{db-bio}} but on Googling, I found [1], [2] and [3] amongst many others. So I was just adding expand, wikify and stub tags when you removed it. Given this seems like a notable person, could you undelete the article? I'd be happy to contribute a little to get it into more acceptable shape. By the way, I didn't create the article, just happend upon it while looking through new pages. Best, Gwernol 01:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the undelete, much apprecited. I almost tagged this one for speedy myself, so I completely understand how that happened - especially given April Fool's day. I've added a little detail to the article and have added it to my watchlist. I hadn't heard of Francis Brunn 15 minutes ago, but I'm glad he's got at least some meagre coverage in Wikipedia now. Hopefully this can be expanded into something really good over time. Thanks again for taking the time, Gwernol 01:41, 1 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Talk Ex-Yugoslavia edit

Talk:Kosovo#2 Administrator for Ex-Yugoslavien articels in Wikipedia- The voice of Kosovar

Eric Stauffer edit

Hi, I was tagging this article for speedy deletion at the same time you deleted it. It was recreated. Can you delete it again? Thanks! Accurizer 20:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for using Template:bibleverse edit

  I saw your use of the bibleverse template on the Church of Christ article, and converted the rest of the article to use it. Outstanding. Abbrviations work too with Bible Gateway, so if you have "Gal." not Galations, that's just fine, you don't have to alter the text that you're bibleverse-ifying. Thanks for leading by example! Alan Canon 05:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC) And thanks again for doing the parameter order changes! Alan Canon 16:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Peer Review edit

Any particular reason you removed the peer review tags? Did I do something wrong? Thanks! Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. 13:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Ronnie Jepson edit

I keep trying save the page but gets deleted.

Date Link from WP:ERRORS edit

You removed an error/request from WP:ERRORS that requested that January 28, 1986 be linked on the Main Page, citing that it was fulfilled. However, I still don't see the link. Is it really there and I'm just missing something? Or has it not been linked yet? joturner 00:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

The change was made and I was able to see the update after redisplaying the Main Page. If you are still are having problems seeing the change I would recommend you purge your web browser's cache using the instructions at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache. --Allen3 talk 01:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Nope; no problems now. Thanks. joturner 01:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Stoke-on-Trent Old Peer Review edit

This peer review has hardly started and yet you are calling it old, what is it to you that you clutter up our screens with trivials and waste everybodys time? Even as you were chiding us, I was writing a neat little article about Minton (a red link), which can stand as it is but is capable of much erudite expansion by those so inclined. Regards, NoelWalley 13:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi, Sorry if the above is a bit curt, problem is I can't reconcile most of the comments, which seem to be hidden away in any case, one with another or with the article. We all know its a poor article and a few folk are trying to improve it. But I fail to see how what has been written by only two folk in this review will help, if only because few people will see it. Why is it not repeated on the talk page? That would be very sensible. Don't understand by the way how you fit into the excercise.

Some guy whose main interest appears to be football, thinks only really famous folk like Stan Matthews are worth a mention. But much effort seems to have gone into that list. Perhaps it needs pruning, but it is updated frequently and probably meets a real need. Most entries have good wikilinks. I certainly would not want it removed even if it fails to meet some arbitary criterion. The other person wants other things in alphabetical order but does not say why?

Regards, NoelWalley 18:08, 28 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Many Thanks, can't imagine many will notice it. Best wishes, NoelWalley 21:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

request for vandal to be banned edit

Dear Allen

User 68.36.225.17 is persistently vandalising Johann Sebastian Bach (well, twice today). Is it possible to ban this person? Tony 02:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your reply. Tony 11:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Help? edit

How do you get your userboxes alligned to the left? Signor Pastrini 04:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Re: Help? edit

Thanks for your help, it worked!!!Signor Pastrini 16:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Deletion of Ana Moura article edit

Did you ever stop to think that you may be a "little" misinformed about a lot of subjects? Page Up 11:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

re: Masters of cinema edit

re: your comments, and possible consignment of this article to the deletion bin.

What does "contested prod" mean? This article describes what the "Masters of Cinema" website is, and the associated "Masters of Cinema Series" of DVDs - a famous boutique DVD label in the UK. What claims in the article require your verification? Why the mention of Alexa ratings? Any help much appreciated. Thanks. Peerpee 20:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

re: Grant Newton edit

Hello. I am an author, and was creating a wiipage about myself. I'm quite big in Australia.

re: thomas mcfadden edit

hey allen-- i was just looking over this mcfadden article when you changed it to a redirect. at first i was going to post it for deletion, but i think it may just need a complete rewrite into a more encyclopedic tone, as it seems to be real, and not a hoax. for this reason, im reverting your edit and posting the rewrite tag. if you have a problem with this, get back to me. Benji64 02:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

===Kenneth G. Miller Jr.=== edit

Why was my article deleted? I was in the process of creating it.

I believe that Kenneth G. Miller Jr is important due to his continued recognition at rutgers university. He was shown on the May 8th episode of the apprentice, is in all of the highlight reels at the school, premiered on the front page of several news papers. In my article about him, I was going to put images to scans of the newspapers, and a link to the apprentice video.

Chase Stein edit

Because you did not follow the proper conduct of an AfD, this article will remain. You didn't even leave a notice on the article. Additionally, if you thought it was duplicating information, it would have been more correct to initiate a merge discussion. --Chris Griswold 21:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

I reverted your talk page edit

Just leaving you a note to explain why I reverted your talk page: the text I removed was a spurious/vexatious request from User:HotHotSoup, the latest sockpuppet of User:PoolGuy, spamming the talk pages of admins (and a few non-admins), and apparently working alphabetically. Contributions of a banned user may be reverted by anyone, but if you would still like the message to be included here, feel free to revert back. Stifle (talk) 17:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

History of a deleted article edit

I'm thinking about re-creating Child Evangelism Fellowship and was wondering if there was any "decent" content to be scavenged from its previous incarnation. Since you were the closing admin at its AfD - Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Child evangelism fellowship, I was wondering if you remembered (or could go back and check) if there was any content I could use from it? Thanks. --Tim4christ17 01:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the help! --Tim4christ17 04:47, 10 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Deletion and Protection of Move.com page edit

Hello.

I would like to discuss the deletion and protection of the Move.com. I want to make an honest attempt at creating a Wiki-worthy page for Move.com and would like to discuss how I can go about creating an appropriate page. I do not want to clutter Wikipedia with junk, but rather create a page consumers can reference when trying to find further information about Move.com. Please advise.

Thank you.

Please see Talk:Move.com for the information you are after. --Allen3 talk 20:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia Research Survey Request edit

FA steps edit

Hi, would you like to give your opinion on the FA steps at Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates/New_steps_to_FA (specifically the Infobox section)? This came out of a couple of discussions on the FA talk page (Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates#FAC_culture and Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates#Rough revised steps) in which everybody involved agreed that the current steps to FA were too simplistic and it would be a good idea to recommend going for GA status first (if you notice it was listed as optional). I listed the proposal on the PR talk page as well. The other issues have been addressed by the new Wikipedia:Featured article criteria which have just been put live today. Yomanganitalk 23:38, 19 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Unfinished The Art of Fugue edit

Thanks for your pointer to the unfinished The Art of Fugue - I've added it to the article now and it works as a good example. Cheers, violet/riga (t) 20:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Deja vu all over again edit

It's baaaaack! Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of famous members of Mensa (2nd nomination) ... your 2¢ would be appreciated. --Dennette 15:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Why did you delete "Blobson & Joe". It did show importance. edit

It did show importance.