Welcome! edit

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Kirk Myers edit

 

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Kirk Myers, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Conflict of interest edit

  Hello, AgustinPascuaMiT. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the COI guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

  • avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
  • propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
  • disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
  • avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
  • do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See WP:PAID. Thank you. – Athaenara 05:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Blocked edit

 
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for advertising or promotion. From your contributions, this seems to be your only purpose.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Athaenara 05:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

 
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

AgustinPascuaMiT (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

It is the first wiki page I've made there is no intention to do publicity, just to write about a living person biography, I do not understand why was I blocked from editingAgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 12:23, 13 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Accept reason:

I will give you another chance. I might recommend that before attempting to create a new article(which as you've found is very difficult) that you spend some time editing existing articles first, and also read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial. Please ask at the Teahouse and Help Desk if you have any questions. Good luck 331dot (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

What is your association with Kirk Myers? 331dot (talk) 12:51, 13 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

I do not have any relation to Kirk Myers, I live in Argentina, this guy has gyms in the US, I find him an interesting person to write about, he has a very significant life, we was really fat he lost lot of weight and help people to do better, and he is a well known trainer in the US world, there is no publicity intention or anything like that, just wanna know why my user was blocked, I really would appreciate if you unblock me. He is a famous person and just wanted to write about him in my first wiki,you've erased all the work I did and all the cites I've made (twelve so far) where you could verify the information I've uploaded was correct. you did not give me an explanation, you just erased it, I can't get back what I've wrote and correct it, I would really appreciate your thoughts and an answer on this, so I can do it better the next time, This was the first wiki I've made and still trying to understand the platform(AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 20:05, 13 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

Athaenara I'd appreciate any comment you have. 331dot (talk) 20:19, 13 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi Athaenara and 331dot thanks for your prompt answer, the draft sent to speedy deletion was the first wiki I've ever made, there was no publicity intention, I really would appreciate your feedback on this, so I can learn how to do it better, by speedy deletion and user blocked I do not know what my mistakes where in order to make it right, I would really use your help and knowledge on how to do a better job, I just like the story guy and decided to wrote about him, not other intention Kindly help me understand my mistakes, it is really hard to to understand how wikipedia works, not used to codes and things like this (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 20:38, 13 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

Hi Athaenara and 331dot I would really appreciate your feedback and I would like to understand what I did wrong and had the chance to do it right the next time (sorry my english is not the best, my native language is spanish, trying to do my best here, thanks again and sorry if I've made a mistake (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 21:02, 13 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

  • @331dot and AgustinPascuaMiT: Sorry, I'm kind of speechless. I can't be anyone's tutor, the best I can do is point to a genuinely encyclopedic page such as Charles Sumner for comparison and additionally point out that things like in-line in-text links to company websites, Facebook and LinkedIn pages, and multiple citations of a fashion blog known for it's high "impression" rate are not the way to achieve encyclopedic credibility. – Athaenara 06:36, 14 September 2019 (UTC)Reply
  • Are there other subjects that you want to write or edit about? 331dot (talk) 07:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi Athaenara and 331dot thanks for the feedback, as I told you before I would like to start using wikipedia to edit pages and write about many things. I love sports and self-superating stories but I am a teacher too, of economics sciences and business administration, at school and college, and I really want to collaborate. I'm interesting of writing of another people too, I do not want to do any kind of advertisement, I just wanna to be part of the community, collaborate and learn, this was my first attempt of writing about someone, as I saw I've made many mistakes, that I will not commit them again, the goal here is to add my knowledge to the community, obviously without doing any kind of advertisement. there is any way that I can be unblocked, and start collaborating again. I'll not make the same mistake, that was my first attempt to write about someone I'll be more careful and genuinely encyclopedic, but kindly unblock me please so I can be a part of the community and start collaborating again (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 22:35, 15 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

  • @331dot: The last time I gave a protesting new editor a second chance, it didn't turn out well at all (he returned to spamming and was blocked again). I think (and hope!) that extending trust to this new editor AgustinPascuaMiT here may have a happier result. – Athaenara 07:46, 16 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thanks both Athaenara and 331dot I'll not fail you this time, thanks so much for the second chance, I'll take all of your recommendations and make it better this time, thanks again.(AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 14:10, 16 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

 
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

AgustinPascuaMiT (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Athaenara I was just doing a draft with no publishing intention on a place that said that other editors will help, you've blocked me again, no intention on public it (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 21:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC)) Please unblock me Just doing a draft in a place where it said that other editors might help ot understanhow it works not block Please unblock me (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 21:25, 18 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

Decline reason:

You had a second chance and used it to do exactly the same thing again that got you blocked the first time. I see no reason to give you yet another chance. Huon (talk) 00:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)Reply


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

  • @AgustinPascuaMiT: A few days ago, 331Dot asked you, "Are there other subjects that you want to write or edit about?" Your reply indicated interests in "many things" and a desire to "collaborate" but your first editing after 331Dot unblocked you was another version of your Kirk Myers page. I don't know whether you realize that we took your word in good faith and now feel a bit foolish for having believed you. – Athaenara 00:00, 19 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

You are right Athaenara, I thought that the place were I write about him, was going to be seen by other editors, and they would help me on doing it right, I do want to edit and write about other persons, as I told you before I thought that the new place where I did write about him was like a collaborative place where other editors can teach me because it said that, so I used that page that I have already done, change words put the reference expecting to be corrected by other users. but instead I was instantly blocked, I'm trying to learn how to write, and thought that in that place where I did write other editors would help me. Sorry that I make you feel foolish, that was not my intention I was expecting other editors to help me on how to write a wiki page. Kindly I ask for the last time to be unblocked again and I will not write about that person no more

sorry and thanks, I thought that in the place where I wrote the article other users were going to help me to write correctly, not intended to publish, just to learn

I will not write again of this person if you unblock me.

sorry again, I do want to write and edit about other things, just thought that in the place where I wrote other users would help me, please I ask you for the last time and in the commitment of not writing bad, may you please unlock me? (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 01:48, 19 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

Kindly I ask again with the promise and the full compromise of not writing about this person again Athaenara may you please unlock me? I'll start with the basics, editing not a living person biography until I fully understand how Wikipedia works (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 17:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

Athaenara are you able to unblock me, as I told you before I will not write of this person again, and start with the basics, may you please unblock me? (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 13:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

Huon I did not the exact him I try to write of this person in a different place in order for other editors to help me. Athaenara as I told you before I thought that the place were I write about this person, was going to be seen by other editors, and they would help me on doing it right, I do want to edit and write about other persons, as I told you before I thought that the new place where I did write about him was like a collaborative place where other editors can teach me because it said that, so I used that page that I have already done, change words put the reference expecting to be corrected by other users. but instead I was instantly blocked, I'm trying to learn how to write, and thought that in that place where I did write other editors would help me. sorry and thanks, I thought that in the place where I wrote the article other users were going to help me to write correctly, not intended to publish, just to learn

I will not write again of this person if you unblock me.

sorry again, I do want to write and edit about other things, just thought that in the place where I wrote other users would help me, please I ask you for the last time and in the commitment of not writing bad, may you please unlock me? (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 13:51, 24 September 2019 (UTC))Reply

You were blocked for promotional editing. When unblocked, you immediately wrote the next draft about the same person, again so ridiculously over-the-top promotional that even factual accuracy remained on the wayside. We expect editors to either be able to write neutrally, or to avoid the topics where they cannot do so. It's not the job of other editors to clean up after you. And regarding the "this time I did it in a different place" defense, spam is not acceptable anywhere on Wikipedia.
To make matters even worse, I have found evidence (which I'm not going to publish here but will gladly share privately with any interested admin) that indicates that your comments above about the lack of a connection with Myers are not the whole story. Under these circumstances, I do not believe unblocking you would improve the encyclopedia, even if you won't write about this specific person any more. Huon (talk) 19:08, 26 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

[User talk:Huon|talk]] I thought that the other place was for other editors to check, as I told you before I do not have relation with this person, I find your message too aggressive, there was no publicity intention, the second time was hoping to have help from some editors, as you said it would be great to know which was said regarding with my connection with Myers, I do not know this person. As I told you before I will not write again of this person! I believe that you never make a mistake in Wikipedia talk, just learning, but you do not let anyone, besides your circle to write, that is called monopolization of knowledge, I don't think that you are the only person that has the truth, or am I wrong talk? the way you write does not sound very encyclopedic, so much aggression unneeded! are u the owner of wikipedia? I believe that you are not being fair on your desition, your truth is not the only truth, and the way you talk to a new user sounds even worse! not letting me the chance to edit? I'll ask again politely may you please unblock me? as I told you before I make a mistake just learning to write on wikipedia,I'll not write again of this person (AgustinPascuaMiT (talk) 23:40, 29 September 2019 (UTC))Reply