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Adnan, you are revising MORE than just the Sunni section. There are three sections -- an overview, a Sunni section, and a Shi'a section. You are revising the overview in a Sunni direction, with all sorts of argumentative additions. Zora 03:00, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Indeed I edited the part were it says the abbasids reverted to Rashidin, and I also edited that shia contend and a group named sunni I changed to the dominant group ( 1800 millions people) is there any thing wrong with that do you call a 1800 millions a group?

Dominant means ruling. Large just means large. I don't think that the Shi'a would agree that the Sunni are dominant. As for groups -- it's inherently difficult to discuss this, because every single dang Muslim "group" believes that it, and it alone, constitutes the "true" Muslims, and that everyone else is a sect. Talking about this involves a lot of weasel-wording.

Now the bit re the origins of the Abbasids is relevant, but it would take a LONG time to explain properly. (They enlisted proto-Shi'a support for their revolution, and then betrayed them afterwards.) Maybe there's some way to phrase this that doesn't open up a whole can of worms. Or perhaps a link should be added. Trying to cover this topic as well as the succession to Muhammad would take the article far afield and be just too confusing to readers. Zora 03:36, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

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Hi, with reference to your addition to Angles, speculating on a Scythian tribe living by the Ingul river: you haven't provided any evidence that this speculation is reasonable, and without any such evidence it's pretty wild speculation (an Indo-Iranian etymology corresponding to a river name in the Ukraine for a West Germanic people.) Please provide referenced sources for important claims like this. --Saforrest 04:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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Regards, Mike Rosoft (talk) 14:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Adding pictures

Hey Adnanmuf, I really love the pictures you are adding to different articles. I have just one small request: please use the "preview" function before saving to see how the pictures look in the article. You have to size the pictures as well by adding "|200px" for example. Thanks for your additions and keep up the good work. Tiamut^talk 12:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Another thing, please do not change captions to read incorrectly. You changed the ones on Arab dress from the fourth to sixth centuries to the seventh century. Why? Also, don't delete pictures, claiming they are an "Armenian family" when they are clearly not. In any case, Armenians are considered Arabs under the linguistic definition. Okay? Tiamut^talk 12:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand what you are doing. You have now deleted the picture of a girl with the Palestinian flag which you added yourself. Could you explain your edits on the talk page? Tiamut^talk 13:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Armenians are not arab, you can not use a europpean looking armenian to represent arabs in the ARAB article, what is wrong with you yourself? I like armenians but you can not mix things especially in an ENCYCLOPEDIA!!! and the picture of palestinian family at top is not palestinan family but Samaritan family, another photo taken by the American consulate then shows that and same dress. and the picture is inhumane shows people living in ruins and dirty floor, the kind of pictures that were prevailing in the article beforeabubakr (talk) 13:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

As I told you before, I don't think they are Armenians. Do you have a source that says that they are? About the second picture, the caption clearly says a "family from Ramallah". It does not say they are Samaritans. Do you have source that says that they are? Anyway, Samaritans are Palestinian citizens and so deserve representation in the article anyway. As I wrote to you in the edit summary, if you insist on changing the picture, you can. But please move it to the place where the other picture is that you would like to use, instead of using the same picture twice and deleting that one. Thanks. Tiamut^talk 13:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes samaritans are palestinian minority. a picture of the palestinian themselves not a small minority (less than 400 people-samaritans) sjould be at top. The picture was taken by the photographer of the american colony . all his pictures focus on jews samaritans and their synogoges. it seems that was his interest!.also another pivcture from his collection shows a samaritan family ( he says so) that are identical to the picrure in this article!!abubakr (talk) 01:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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You have been blocked for edit warring and blatant POV-pushing on Palestinian people. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I am shocked that I am blocked that I am the one who is been violated. The Evil Spartan! removed multiple edits of mine because he said they are blatant? all of them?, could he just removed the part that he thinks is blatant and pushing. In one of his edits he remarked that the map of Palestine is offensive because it does not show state of Israel, I find that extremely insulting and offensive as a palestinian, the map is in wikimedia commons and it is a geographical map showing Palestine borders as the homeland of Palestinians ( ie where they come from and where half of them live already!). I think deleting the map and his remarks are double defamation and humiliation. As for the second edit which I think he is refering to is the part about British mandate of Palestine ending with a reference ( when I read the reference which is a British colonial report, it did not absolutely say anything of the paragraph, but rather what exactly I reported in my edit. Please have your time to check the reference which is as follows:

During the British Mandate of Palestine, the term "Palestinian" was used to refer to all people residing there, regardless of religion or ethnicity, and those granted citizenship by the Mandatory authorities were granted "Palestinian citizenship". You can see that the report says nothing of that but myy new edit!!!! I request express attention to my demand, for I think my being blocked is another indication of the discrimination of Wikipedia against Palestinians and myself personally which migh incur severe psychological and emothional damages. Sincerely,abubakr (talk) 19:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I would like to know why evil spartan who started the edit warring was not blocked? and what part/s exactly were the blatant POV or pushing since evil spartan removed a whole-sale of my edits obviously randomly. In case I demand return the non blatant edits back since I spent hours on them. The map was needed for the difinition of the palestinian people which is the map of palestine 1922 the area the palestinians people come from! What was wrong with my edit of the British Mandate of Palestine section since my edit represent exactly what its reference says!??? I demand since I am blocked that a wiki arbitrator makes a judgement on the case!abubakr (talk) 22:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

• I warned you about edit warring at your IP address, since your account had not edit warred at the time. As you continue to edit war, please be advised that edits from your IP will be treated as edits from you and all blocks and bans will be applied to both. There are no "Wiki arbitrators" to make content decisions. Content disputes are resolved through discussion on the talk page, or Request for comment or mediation. Thatcher 21:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear Thatcher, you should stop terrorize me by the threat of unblocking like last time! Last time I merely returned my edits back from the Evil Spartan who whole sale removed all my edits/contibution. You can not treat us both the same. Evil Spartan started it, he was not blocked (used 3 times, I did not use three time rule!!!!) You are also terrorizing other editors who revert to my edits by warning them on their talk pages that they are edit warring or puppet socket from me? even though they did revert ONLY ONCE! I am accumulating enough evidence of Zionist conspiracy in wikipedia agreed on by ots admistration! Now stop bothering me, I only reverted onceabubakr (talk) 04:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

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For your disruptive editing on Palestinian people and related topics, I have blocked you for a year. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Dear Future Perfect, I noticed that Eleland had reverted my edit on the discussion Page of Palestinian People article! I think she complained to wiki that my edit is disruptive. She obviously did not under stand that my edit was a response to Nishidani remark that my reference to relation of Race and genetics would delight ((Gobineau, and, Houston Stewart Chamberlain) two white racists who use the claim of relation of race and genetics to their propaganda, I explained to him, that it is true ( see my edit reverted) that science have confirmed the relation just recently! (I referred him to Dienekez anthroplogy blog ( a highly scientific site by researcher Dienekez) for the recent studies about that) I explained to him that the genetic scientific discoveries have revealed sinister find: that the Europpeans of the R Haplogroup used to have a DNA gene that was responsible for Lactose intolerance 2 thousand years ago( ie. they could not drink milk) instead they had to drink the blood of their meres ( Herodotus referred to that in 450 BC about the Goths) the genetic discoveries were from the DNA of bones of the Goths ( blond blue eyed mummies in the Kurgan culture (Goths) cemetaries, hence my edit was completely scientific, especially to know that (talk/Palestinian People) is a B-class DNA studies forum, linked to directly by several universities! and my edit was completely related to the page and to the comment posed by Nishidani, but obviously Eleland did not under stand the relation between my response and his question, and thought they were unrelated!)

This is the second time I get accused and blocked unfairly! I want to remind you again that editing in the discussion page is not disruptive editing, since int s not on the wiki page but in the discussion. Since you acknowledge you are not expert in DNA science I don't think you qualify to block or unblock in this matter. You should ask an expert! As I explained this talk page of Palestinian People is a forum for DNA studies in which people who are not interested in reading Wiki itself come to to check on the latest info about DNA studies. Nishidani accused me that my mention of a new discovery in DNA studies revealed a relation between race and genes, would delight white racist proponents, I explained to him that not only I am against racists, but also the DNA studies ( that are binding) goes both ways, and proved the point against white racists this time, by confirming that the White race was the only race in ancient History that have experienced Cannibalism ( the Golden city of the Goths near Kiev where they found eaten humans bones! recently ( a reference available-not my OR), and that they indeed resorted to drinking blood as Herodotus reported about the Goths in 450 BC that they drank blood. The scientific explanation that because they found the gene of Lactose intolerance and the fact that Goths could not have agriculture ( wheat) they could not reserve food for the winter, and had to drink blood instead of milk to evade famine ( yearly basis!), However the people who study DNA genetic genealogy and visit the websites know about this milk intolerance gene and the consequences, I am not supposed to explain to you every thing here to pardon me. Tou should pardon your lack of knowledge and skewing wikipedia into an ignorance foggy road because of you lack of knowledge and being administrators at the same time ( many with little degrees ( breakfast MA degrees)and High school diplomas, and the opportunity for administrators to make political packs ( wolf packs) to lobby for Israel and special interest groups on this ENCYCLOPEDIA) destroyong its reliability validity and effectiveness ( damaging effects instead!) Sincerelyabubakr (talk) 06:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC) You can not possibly hold me responsible for DNA studies that revealed this fact, nor responsible for reporting these studies on wiki (discussion page!!??). Such mind provoking and invoking dialogue are all over the discussion boards of DNA studies ( Palestinian people discussion page is supposedly one of them). I am not responsible for the studies. However if you want links to these studies I will do that gladly ( it will require one hour of work on the internet on my behalf) onlyabubakr (talk) 06:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I believe the so called wiki community does not represent the community that uses and utilize wikipedia, and so being a free wikipedia, oilitical correctness varies between nations and groups of the world ( generation X like yourself, but also there are generation Y and z and WWII veterans, and different peoples from around the world, so it is immoral to impose you r narrow range POV on the whole world ( the intended target ofg the wikipedia, correct me if I am wrong). I also remind you that I am an old time contributor to wiki, and a specialist in DNA studies and I did not disrupt or went out of line in my discussion on the DISCUSSION page. It is you who are out of place hereabubakr (talk) 06:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

tl;dr. The more concise and to the point you are, the more likely it is someone will bother with your request. John Reaves 17:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

John has a point—this is excessively lengthy... I almost feel asleep reading it. Nevertheless, I've gotten in touch with the blocking administrator, asking for more information on the block. Bear with me—I'll try and have a response to your request within the hour. AGK (contact) 19:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not responsible for scientific research if said so and so, and it was not my opinion that the white race (were vampires and cannibals when they were in Scythia), I refer you to Herosotus and Dienekes blog! and my edit was in the discussion page ( a B class DNA ethnology page!) meaning for specialists in the field not for tiny brains like you.abubakr (talk) 08:00, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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