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Fraternity
editHey there. A tag has been added to your recent fraternity article requesting it be deleted as soon as possible. This has been done because it seems to be about a fraternity without asserting why it is important or notable. If you have any questions please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page.•Elomis• 21:36, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Mu Pi Phi
editHey mate, it was Mu Pi Phi, it's gone now. •Elomis• 21:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Mu Pi Phi
editHey, It was deleted by an administrator who agreed with my nomination. The reason I nominated it was because the fraternity is not notable, it has only been around for a very short period of time and is not sufficiently important or renowned to be the subject of an encyclopedia article. Generally speaking fraternities shouldn't have articles written about them unless they are famous, this is even specifically put down as an entry in the list of bad article ideas as a guideline. You might want to avoid writing articles about fraternities altogether as they are almost always deleted as being unsuitable. •Elomis• 21:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Mu Pi Phi
editYou don't need my permission to create or recreate any article but your logic for wanting to do so with this one is not in line with Wikipedia policies. Wikipedia is not the place for "getting the fraternities known" anywhere, it is solely a place for things that are already known. Please read this guideline for notability for information on how the fraternity should already be known at least around the US and probably internationally (even in places that don't have fraternity systems). It's generally a really bad idea to create fraternity articles as they really do almost NEVER make the cut. If I were you I'd be more inclined to put information on myspace or build a fraternity website, an encyclopedia is not the place for what you are trying to do. •Elomis• 22:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Fraternities
editOk, well I don't understand why there are so many fraternity pages on this website.
- Me either, this guideline on what wikipedia is not outlines how the site shouldn't be used for networking or for indescriminate information collections about organisations, this one goes through in great detail how important or notable an organisation should be before it should have an article, this one goes through details about what schools deserve inclusion (so you'd think it would be easy to explain that a school based organisation would apply also, this one actually outlines specifically that fraternities aren't a good idea for articles.
Your information of them almost NEVER making the cut is wrong.
- No, the application of it is wrong. Those articles should also be deleted, it's a matter of people finding them though. I found yours because I'm part of a large group of members who watch pages as they are created and investigate any that look inappropriate. The others that are missed by this process typically hang around much longer because there are fewer people watching the overall body of articles.
I have found info about most of the fraternities I needed to. For example, I found the information on my fraternity to see if it was legitimate. It lead me to their website where I found even more info. I also found info on why Sigma Chi should not return to my campus. It is a great place to find info, and it is a great place to put info. It is not a place of advertising necessarily, but with a lot of articles it helps others find reasons of when organizations were established and for what purposes. That is the reason of posting this info. I also noticed that there are articles similar to mine that are still up, and they have not been deleted. Like I said, this is a place to gather info and to provide more places for more info.
- No, what you are talking about is a directory or a collection of information. Like a phone book where people find the barest details about something or someone and then use that resource to get more substantial information. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an indexed collection of starting points for organisational research. Check out this which goes into the full detail about it.
Either way, it's a bad idea to have the article, and nothing you've said changes that. BUT, were you to recreate it I wouldn't re-tag it the same way (that would be petulant and rude). This doesn't mean someone else won't (they almost certainly will). If I see it I would be inclined to tag it AfD, instead of CSD. The difference between these two is that CSD is meant to be a no-brainer (any administrator seeing one that he/she agrees with he/she will delete), AfD is a process whereby a page is created and many people will give their opinions. If you recreate and I do this you can explain your reasoning there, I'll explain mine, other people will explain theirs and this can stop being between you and me and be about a consensus of what everybody thinks.
•Elomis• 00:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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