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hi. I note that you deprecated the relevance of AF447 to 8501. The pitot tube failure was only the initial cause. The main cause was the failure of the PF (inexperienced first officer) to push the nose down and keep it down until the stall warning disappeared while the nose was down. i.e pilot error. The recent radar data suggest to me that the same pilot error could have occurred when 8501 was wafted by a huge updraft, which increases the angle of attack beyond stall, requiring immediate nose down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Layzeeboi (talkcontribs) 00:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. I agree that Pulkovo 612 is relevant; I didn't notice that. Now I ask about your statement "If the crash was caused by engine failure we would know by now". How would we necessarily know? From the FDR data? I am skeptical about the investigative efficiency of the NTSC, and the transparency of the Ministry of Transport. Layzeeboi (talk) 02:12, 27 January 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure what you mean by "conventional stall" in the context of violent thunderstorms. What would an "unconventional stall" be? Certainly the weather was a contributing factor to what happened, including any stall. We have yet to see an opinion from a person competent in aerodynamics with access to all of the data. A flameout due to hail can combine with a strong updraft to contribute to a stall. In fact, flameout may be one of the common causes of stalls. Such accidents as this one are typically due to a confluence of several contributing factors. Layzeeboi (talk) 17:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)Reply