User talk:AMbroodEY/Archive 3

Archive 1 from 24th August 2005 to 9th March 2006
Archive 2 from 14th March 2005 to 4th December 2006

Hi i'm not as active as I used to be...

अमेय आर्यन DaBrood^© 16:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Indian Buddhist Revival

Before doing drastic and big changes please participate in RFC discussion. RFC is not removed from the article. Pkulkarni 18:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Dalit "Protests"

Perhaps... but the wikipolice pak are also pretty obsessed with Political Correctedness... Hkelkar 20:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hindu dalits should convert to Buddhism. Even though they are Hindus they do not have any justice. Violence is not a solution but sometimes it is necessary especially against Barbaric Hindus.Hindu Mobs are killing innocent Buddhist in a barbaric way. It is difficult to understand why these minority Buddhists are not taking our example? Shrilankabuddhist 15:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Hindushudra

Hi Amey, what to do about this guy ? --NRS | ^T/_M\^B 17:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello, why are you reverting changes? Please read our Hindu literature before attacking Hindu Articles Hindushudra 17:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

He is wreaking havoc everywhere. He moved the Hindu page to Hindu-Shudra. I moved it back. But he is still on his shudrization spree. --NRS | ^T/_M\^B 18:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

To understand why I removed to the right title please read Varnas Dharma. If you don't understand our Hinduism then study well Hindushudra 18:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

do a check user on him.--D-Boy 07:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

In my college I am suferring too much because of these few guys. They tease me even in front of other euorpean people. Thanks for blocking all these Shudra users. Their one point agenda is defame Hinduism and nothing else. Holybrahmin 16:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Copied from [W:INB]

AMbroodEY, you are entirely correct. Furthermore, I would like to humbly apologize for my awful and outrageous remarks. Anyone who has read this simply must know that I am deeply ashamed at the numerous wrongs I committed with the posts I made. There are so many, I can't even begin.

I trolled, basically. I didn't intend to, but I did. I've ruined the talk page of a wonderful project in the most foul, grotesque way. Even if my posts were forever deleted (which they can't be, I know), the hurt I may have caused so many excellent editors and people who come across these pages is almost unbearable to me.

Please find it in your heart to forgive me. I am here to learn and help you in whatever way I can. NinaEliza 22:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, AMbroodEY, I would like to personally apologise to you. I assumed bad faith last night and what I did was simply outrageous. My non-response to you was simple laziness and procrastination. You've done and said nothing to me to warrant my suspicion of you. I hope you we can put this behind us and work together (as our time allows) in the future.

Sincerely,

NinaEliza 23:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks mate

for your birthday greeting. It has been a while since we talked, partially due to both of our inactive periods of editing. The next 2 months will be my most active months until late November 2007 when I would have finished high school because of summer holidays (I live down under in case you forgot). Cheers Gizza^{Chat ©} 06:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Buddhism in modern India

India Buddhist revival/Dalit Buddhist Movement/Buddhist Revival in India has been moved to Buddhism in modern India. utcursch | talk 15:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Buddhism in modern India

Like I mentioned, that you and User:Hkelkar were justified in moving the article to "Dalit Buddhist movement", because it talked only about Ambedkar and his followers. I've added some stuff at Buddhism in modern India#Origins -- it wasn't Ambedkar who started the revival. It was Anagarika Dharmapala. I will expand the article to include some info about non-Ambedkarite Buddhism. This article is too large to fit in Buddhism in India. Besides, merging will only make Buddhism in India controversial. Also, this will prevent users like User:Pkulkarni from finding a reason to raise anti-Hindu rant. I am wondering whether this user is an avatar of User:P K aya Kulkarni, whom I warned in October for fanatic anti-Brahmin/Maratha/Patel edits. utcursch | talk 17:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Buddhism in modern India2

I do not have any personal quarrel with you. But the name Buddhism in modern India is proper. Because India got independance since 1947 and we also became one country. The Buddhist conversion Movement initiated by Dr. Ambedkar is in 1956. So the title is proper. It is true because of compelte separation of Buddhism from Hinduism and 22 vows many Hindus don't like the the minority Buddhists in India but that is not our problem. You can contribute positively in Buddhist and other religion related articles. Please share your views also. Pkulkarni 18:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

I respect the Dalai Lama, to me he represents Buddhism in modern India, not a crew of rioters. From what I read in TiE or the Hindu, the Dalai Lama and respected Buddhist leaders are closest to the BJP if anything.Bakaman 03:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

As you might be aware that Pkulkarni (talk · contribs) and his/her socks have been blocked (see Talk:Dalit Buddhist movement). User:Pkulkarni (with his sock accounts) was the only person opposed to an article with the title Dalit Buddhist movement or Ambedkarite Buddhism. Other involved parties such as User:Hkelkar, User:AMbroodEY, Nat Krause[1], and NinaEliza[2] support for separate article about Dalit Buddhist movement. So, I've moved the article to Dalit Buddhist movement. The content about non-Ambedkarite Buddhism has been removed and addded to Buddhism in India[3]. Sorry for all the confusion. I hope I'm finally fixing this. Thanks. utcursch | talk 15:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Pkulkarni

Given this user's persistence, I'd strongly recommend bringing him up on WP:ANI if he hasn't been already, because a community ban may need to be discussed. --Coredesat 22:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

In that case, you should probably start a new thread there so it can be brought to other admins' attention. We can't ban anyone without community consensus (though an indefinite block could be reasonable, but I'd like to get advice from others on how to deal with it first). --Coredesat 22:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar

This case is now closed and the results have been posted above.

• BhaiSaab (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned for one year.
• Hkelkar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) editing under any name or anonymous ip is banned from Wikipedia for one year.
• TerryJ-Ho (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is banned for a year for personal attacks, disruptive comments, edit-warring and incivility.
• BhaiSaab is placed on probation for an indefinite period. He may be banned from any article or set of articles which he disrupts. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.
• Hkelkar and socks is placed on probation for an indefinite period. He may be banned from any article or set of articles which he disrupts. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.
• TerryJ-Ho is placed on probation for an indefinite period. He may be banned from any article or set of articles which he disrupts. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

For the Arbitration committee, Cowman109^Talk 06:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

reply for Hindu Sindhi

NO there is no such things.Those who were left behind were protect by muslims and many of those adopted cast system of those muslim as we have Bugti Hindu Sindhi(they are Hindu Sindhi),Rind Hindu Sindhi and many more but many have not changed there cast as we have advani(L.K advai Head of BJP in india) and Govindani and many other Hindu Sindhi (they are many From Middle or High Class Religious class) as Barhaman Sindhi living in Thar. You are true that Hindu sindhi are marchant,that is true.it is regardless if they are an india,pakistan or any part of world.here in Pakistan sindh Hindu Sindhi are Educated and having good jobs.Yes they are discriminate for many reason as they are Sindhi ,2nd they are Hindu.

Good to know that u knw sindhi,i am glad.it is beautiful language.u said u want to visit it sindh too.i can guide where to go ,i have been all parts of sindh.Yeah sindhi Hindus are wealthy for sure they are Born as marchants (just being funny),but we have many Good Sindhi Hindu doctors,teachers,engineers and manly marchants too.if you want to know more ask me

Khalidkhoso 07:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Khalidkhoso 12:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Clothing articles

I have worked on a number of clothing articles. Most of them don't have any nationalistic tags. Shift doesn't. Skirt and dress doesn't. I thought the Scots might have claimed Kilt, but no, they haven't. That's because most clothing isn't confined to any one country. We would end up with articles plastered with numerous tags, to no particular purpose. It's perfectly OK to say that Scots wear kilts, in an article on Scotland; it's not OK to claim the kilt for Scotland.

I removed the India tags from sari and dhoti because I wanted to be fair. We have have a Pakistani trying to claim Salwar kameez for Pakistan. Bakasuprman and I have been reverting him, on the grounds that salwar kameez are worn all over South Asia. Well, that goes for sari and dhoti too. Zora 18:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

decline

I have no chance.Bakaman 21:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Its not pessimism ambroodey, its WP:SNOW. Nominate a more qualified person, rather than someone who's made as many enemies as I have. I really do not wish to force myself to be neutral in India-related disputes, and its too early after arbcom to think about it. Also the anti-Hindu group will be sure to run this into the ground. Look at my block log as well, nominate someone with a clean log, perhaps like nobleeagle.Bakaman 21:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Yes, I am Rom, it looks like I am the only one contributing here. Many of the articles about my people are really racist stuff written by non-Roma and I'm working to present the reality (now just in the articles about the language, later I'll correct the others too). I partially reverted your edit, but if there is a problem we should debate, Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 20:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi AMbroodEY,

Always nice to talk to a brother. About the use of Desi, it is just the desire to have a word that would encompass the people belonging to South Asian culture. South Asian somehow presents just a geographical origin. So my focus is on having a nice word for this culture and its people, be it Desi or, who knows, another word. Other things related that I'd like to say are that among Roma there is also a problem about the exotic image of India among White folks. When people hear about the European attitude towards Kama Sutra or other similar stuff they become ashamed about the Indian connection. It is not about Kama Sutra itself, I'm pretty sure that a wise explanation would clarify its role in the South Asian culture. This is because most of Roma never met other South Asians to know that they have the same bashfulness regarding the sex (and also other subjects that rise misunderstandings) and that this exotic India exists only in the minds of the White people. Also we have a lot of problems because we are considered an exotic people, we are fed up with it, adding to this that we are very identity conscious, the consequence is that we tend to understand rapidly if a people's presentation is fake or genuine and to reject everything fake. The same as we reject the image of Gypsy, although I am aware that the image of Indian is not as harmful as that of Gypsy. Personally, I make distinction (my situation compels me) between India/Indian and Bharat/Bharatiya. Of course, there is not something yet settled about it, a lot of friendly debate about the South Asian identity is necessary.

Regarding the use of Devnagari, I wrote something about it at Romani_writing_systems#Devanagari(probably you saw it). The fact is that, besides the cultural connection, it is the most suitable for a Indo-Aryan language. Plus, some variants of standardized Romani employ Sanskrit-based neologisms, using the experience of tatsam words in Hindi (I see that they begin to be used also in speech at TV, in Romania, where I live). About the scale of the use, Romani it is not yet so much used in writing with either Latin or Devnagri.

Finally, I'd like to ask you what made you think that the username is Punjabi. I don't know too much about Punjabi, Hindi is the other Indo-Aryan language I manage a bit. I read somewhere that some dialects of Punjabi, the same as Romani, switched the voiced aspirated sounds to voiceless aspirated. Like खेर in Romani is घर in Hindi, or फ्राल is भाई. But it was just a small sentence. Do you know more about it? All the best, Desiphral-देसीफ्राल 16:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

P. N. Oak

I think it's important to have a page on him, in case people run into some of his wacky ideas. For years I have fought attempts to append his theory re the Vedic origins of the Kaaba to the Kaaba article. I thought it was just a lone nut. Boy was I surprised to find that there were a number of people who believed that the Kaaba (and many other world-famous structures) were originally Hindu shrines. In the immortal words of the film Hairspray, "Oooh papatooney, we got a looney!" Zora 00:27, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

you never know.--D-Boy 11:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Dboy is correct. I do enjoy being a Hindutva kook.Bakaman 17:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Ambroodey, if you celebrate it (I don't).NinaEliza (talk • contribs • logs) 18:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

POTA

Thanks for the info! I "created" the page by removing material from the Atal Bihari Vajpayee page (since the discussion was too detailed for that particular article) and pasting it at Prevention of Terrorism Act, India. The POTA article is therefore only a stub, which does need to be cleaned up, and expanded ... to include information that it has been repealed ! If you have access to sources on the topic, it would be great if you could edit the article. Thanks. Abecedare 23:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

vandalism

Hi this is Nadirali. I found your name on the Pakhub talk page and read your comments.It's quite obvious you vandalized the article.Since you did it without consulting us first,it's WP:vandalism.The website is non-for profit. There are articles written on youtube and ebay,but it's clear why you didn't vandalize those.Please note the next time you do this,I will report you to the administration. Nadirali 23:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Ambroodey I took the liberty of striking out the bogus warning.Bakaman 01:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)