AMYHAMAOUI

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Robert Birgeneau

Hello

"Robert Joseph Birgeneau (born March 25, 1942) is a Canadian physicist and university administrator."

Robert Birgeneau and his wife Mary Catherine are both naturalized U.S. citizens. This statement should be edited to reflect this by simply changing "Canadian" to "Canadian-born" and updating his Nationality to "United States."

• do you have a reliable support for this claim? WP:RS ? Govindaharihari (talk) 05:43, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I have a copy of his naturalization certificate but cannot share online. I'm looking into other ways I can provide claim support. Thank you!

Robert Birgeneau

Hi Amy,

I'm a physics grad student at Columbia; I was asked to work with you on the article Robert Birgeneau. I've done a review of your sandbox and will be following up with a more in-depth review shortly. However my first concern is that press releases and Berkeley organs are being used as sources. I do not intend to cast aspersions on your intentions, but I'm sure you understand how an external observer could see this as circular. It is furthermore not in keeping with Wikipedia's policies to include all of the policy decisions and initiatives that a university administrator (especially one with as illustrious a career as Birgeneau's) sponsors.

Therefore, I ask that all information we add from now on must be found in third-party sources unaffiliated with the university. If it is not found in third-party sources, it is probably not significant enough to include. I think basic biographical details are the only necessary exception. The information currently in the article that comes from university sources can remain for now but will be subjected to further review. Thanks, I look forward to working with you. Astro interest (talk) 16:10, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

P.S.: Upon review of the article, I also have concerns about disproportionate coverage. Birgeneau only spent 9 years at Berkeley, yet that section already makes up more than half of the text of the article. By contrast, he spent over 25 years at MIT and became department chair and Dean of Science, yet that span is covered in just two sentences. I expect that you will work on all sections of the article, not just the section relevant to Berkeley. Let's set a goal to have the sections relating to his career be of length proportionate to the time he spent at each of the institutions in the next few weeks. Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Astro interest (talk) 16:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC)