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Lincoln College

To chose a random example the "Academic Support" section was a dirrect copy and paste from http://www.adelaide.edu.au/lincoln/resources/ . So No I'm not going to restore those versions.Geni 13:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Bugger ya!

"Nonsense sentence"?? You go there! You know it's true!--ABVS 13:04, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

St Anns D.B.O.Y.

The fact that they are still talking about that game five years on speaks volumes for their crappy college.--Yeti Hunter 05:53, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

AB (food)

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I agree it seems to be trolling, but I have to admit that on this page, bloke does have a point. The only google results for "ab yiros chips" are blog pages, hardly reliable sources. I guess someone has to take the time to visit the Advertiser archives within the next four days.--Yeti Hunter 01:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

W/P's failings

Yeah well, W/P does have its failings. I think the character who is trying to create problems for the Marks article is a 'sock puppet'. Someone who uses a newly created secondary account to have a go at an article. I'm not on W/P enough to know how to get around it. Most things happen by consensus (blocking users etc). His actions technically speaking are correct, although the language and tone is confronting. The best way is to 'watch' the page (which I'm sure you've done) and try to intervene at the right moment. There are also a few other past and present Marks people on W/P who take an interest. Any way small comfort. Ozdaren 00:43, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

You don't have to break the rules to be a troll.--Yeti Hunter 00:56, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. Ozdaren 03:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Apples

Didn't want to get into a slanging match at AfD. I wouldn't have picked apples if I didn't think I could source my remarks -

• • Pink
  • red
  • green

The first one may not satisfy WP:RS. The DPI does, and are not primary sources about individual varieties of apple. Who would have thought the Department of Agriculture would know about fruit? If you are interested, I strongly recommend Agfact H4.1.12 Apple varieties, second edition (31 May 2005), New South Wales Department of Primary Industries. That looks like gloating which is why I got it off the AfD. The references were trivial to find (which is why I used them as examples) - I started by thinking of the right question rather than just thinking of a search engine. Google wasn't much help in this case until my search was "pink lady" + "dpi.nsw.gov.au" but I got a better result going straight to the dpi website and using their search tool for "apple" Garrie 00:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Garrie, thank you so much. I do sincerely hope that you did see the funny side of my argument, hence your post here, as I have. There was nothing malicious in what I was trying to do (and I'm assuming there was nothing in your reply either!), but thank you so so much, this has made my day. Fantastic! ABVS1936 05:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Barossa German

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Hast du diese website gesehen? http://www.atlas.sa.gov.au/go/resources/atlas-of-south-australia-1986/regional-areas/barossa-valley. Sehr gut für das Artikel, oder? --Yeti Hunter 13:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Barossa Deutsch - current speakers

Aber wer spricht Deutsch als erste Sprache im Barossatal? Wie alt sind diese Leute? Kennst du jemand, der unter 60 Jahre alt ist, der Barossadeutsch richtig spricht? Wegen des Zweiten Weltkrieges dürfte man kein Deutsch lernen und sprechen. Nach dem Krieg war es noch schlimm, weil die Sprache des Unterrichtsraumes Englisch war. "Multicultural Australia" kam zu spät, um Deutsch als Muttersprache des Barossatals zu retten. Ozdaren 15:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Schade daß du kein[1] Deutsch sprichst :) Ozdaren 00:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Marks for deletion

The bloke is a clown. Nobody in their right minds will say anything other than strong keep--Yeti Hunter 13:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, in the words of Rodney Rude, "I shouldn'a done it, trendsetters,", but hey..--Yeti Hunter 14:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if these fools realise that if the Marks page actually does bite the dust, there's no way any of the other colleges would survive AfD.--Yeti Hunter 16:02, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Marks for GA

Once this has all died down, I suggest we clean up the loose ends of the article and nominate it for GA; it's nearly there already. Things that need to be done:

• Better crest photo (StM wiki? could you send that image to me?)
• Residential College infobox (if such a thing exists? Perhaps create our own template)
• Remove a bit more cruft
• Where possible, replace StM website cites with independent sources
• Expand accommodation section (really necessary??)
• Add section about academic support and academic results (29 rhodes scholars)
• Add date of women being admitted and cite it
• Possibly a photo of Downer House, Memorial, St Mark?
• Condense history section to salient points only.
• Resolve edit wars

I think it sometimes takes a couple more days to remove AfD templates - it has to go to Old Discussions and then an admin has to read the discussion and make a decision. It can take a while, depending on how many articles there are in backlog. Never mind, i'm pretty sure of the consensus that was reached. If not, I've got dibs on nominating Flinders.--Yeti Hunter 12:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

There has definitely been coverage of the GT in the Advertiser or Sunday Mail, or perhaps Lumen or The Adelaidean. Searching Prosh in a news database would yield results, as the GT traditionally leads the parade. I think Cyberjunkie has access to such a database, perhaps I'll ask him if he would consider doing a search.--Yeti Hunter 13:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Check this out, feel free to edit: User:Yeti Hunter/StM Infobox --Yeti Hunter 05:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Looks good, tho you still need a better logo. Get Marks to release one to you? Ozdaren 08:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Yours is sweet. Put it up as soon as we get a decent logo, I say. BTW wasn't it 1982 we got chicks?--Yeti Hunter 11:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

You revert it this time. Add this ref to Ivan Shearer while you're at it. http://www.dfat.gov.au/media/transcripts/2001/010405_untreaty.html --Yeti Hunter 12:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Just went back to the Marks article. Wow U-N is really waging war against you guys. I had a look at all the edits and reverts. He's got a huge hidden agenda. About all I can say is that he has made the Marks article so much better by making everyone work so hard on it. Ozdaren 14:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Hidden??--Yeti Hunter 09:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

His motives are hidden. His actions aren't. I'm not sure what is prompting his attacks on articles mainly worked on by you guys. Did you kick someone out of college :) Is it possible to look at someones IP address on W/P? Ozdaren 13:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

He's Flinders. Not certain, but pretty good chance. Check out this. Not a smoking gun by any means, but Flinders have been quite the funnymen this year in relation to college raids on St Marks. I guess this is a dorky version of the same thing.--Yeti Hunter 14:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you able to email me that StM logo that's better quality?--Yeti Hunter 04:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I miss the bloke. I want him to keep trolling so the page keeps getting better. As for the image, just upload a new version of the old file when you are ready - that way we don't have to change the actual page at all (not that it really matters but it saves someone the work of deleting that old file).Yeti Hunter 01:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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St Mark is my homeboy

Check this out, from Mark the Evangelist: "It is suggested that Mark was one of the servants at the Marriage at Cana who poured out the water that Jesus turned to wine (John 2:1-11)." Could that get any more appropriate?--Yeti Hunter 11:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

St Marks

its all ok. I always avoid commenting on other editors (whereever possible), i like hoe AGF is summed up: comment on the topic, not the editor. DW tis all good. Twenty Years 15:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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re. Oak (wine)

Hi, thanks for opening a discussion this. You're quite right, staves would be the term for barrel making, although everything I've ever read about adding great lumps of timber to a vat has described them as "planks". My personal take on it is that staves from dissembled oak barrels make for obvious flavouring additives in steel vats, but I have nothing reliable to back this up. The Jancis Robinson citation for that sentence describes this sort of thing as planks, so that is verifiable terminology. Googling about, the Aussies (who else?) seem to have been the source of the more "down to earth" terminology and it does seem to be more prevalent. The South Africans, OTOH, seem to favour "staves"; I'm happy enough to reflect all this by including both terms & have already amended this and related articles. Cheers! --mikaul^talk 13:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Criticism of Facebook

How is deleting POV statements which are not factually accurate vandalism? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.5.45 (talk) 02:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

headset

Hi, ABVS1936. What's exactly the problem with that headset image being used on that article? I noticed you keep reverting me everytime I try to add it [2][3]. I'm sure ther's a good reason or doing that, but I couldn't decipher it from your edit summary. What am I missing? Thanks! --Damiens.rf 11:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

As per my edit summary, the image is of a prominent Australian Politician wearing a headset for broadcast, NOT a headset for telephone or computer. The article is not about the former type of headset, not the latter - it doesn't matter how "nice" the image is, it is not an appropriate representation of the subject of the article. It is also not about the politician in question. Please try to keep the images you add to articles in-context, as I have asked you before. ABVS1936 (talk) 07:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry my ignorance, but are the equipment really distinct, or what you're concerned is just the purpose of their use? --Damiens.rf 13:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

The two are entirely distinct. I'm not entirely sure that the image should be in the Headset section of the Headphone article as that section links to the main article of Headset (telephone/computer). My concern is also that the actual subject of the image - John Bannon - has nothing to do with either topic. ABVS1936 (talk) 06:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

There's no rule stating that John Banno's images can only be used in article related to John Bannon. That's the whole point of asking images to be be free, that is, that we can use them "for any purpose". --Damiens.rf 13:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

No, it doesn't say that anywhere. However we ARE allowed to use tact and common sense. As I said earlier, my main concern is that the image is in no way related to the article - the article being about headsets for telephone or computer, and the image being that of a politician wearing a broadcast headset. ABVS1936 (talk) 05:34, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I confess I didn't spot that difference (and still don't fully understand it). --Damiens.rf 10:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Marks for GA

Hey ABVS, let's get Marks to GA finally. I've put a to-do list on the talk page which I think should cover it, and have started working on the history rewrite here User:Yeti Hunter/StM Infobox. Hope you can help, --Yeti Hunter (talk) 08:21, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Marble Hill

Dear ABVS

I note despite your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ABVS1936#Welcome reference above to: "• Build consensus • Resolving disputes • Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette" that you choose to use the words and phrase, "reverting nonsense again - this is beginning to get ridiculous". What specifically “lacks any coherent meaning”?Mifren (talk) 20:16, 26 October 2009 (UTC) Further I refer you to http://auspics.org.au/bill_of_rights/dominiumCASE29_8_04.pdf in an attempt to "• Build consensus • Resolving disputes • Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette", respect, recognition and resourcing Kaurna; "[Kaurna] have NEVER surrendered this DOMINIUM because, on 19 February 1836, in an EXERCISE of the PREROGATIVE (a form of LEGAL power the CROWN exercises by EXECUTIVE act not otherwise authorised by LEGISLATION of the Parliament or the exercise of JUDICIAL power by a judge of a Court), Letters Patent were issued establishing the legal power of the Crown to hold land in South Australia, but which declared the traditional owners could legally continue to occupy and enjoy the lands they inhabited and that their descendants were equally entitled to continue to occupy and enjoy these lands their ancestors inhabited."

St. Mark's

Hello, Heading of website doesn't use the incorrect dot; copyright statement at bottom of page doesn't- there is a bit of illiteracy using a dot scattered about the website (perhaps 14%) (what the heck, it is Adelaide). We do our best to name articles as the subject would doubtless intend. Regards (Crusoe8181 (talk) 08:00, 2 January 2011 (UTC)).

Actually, the copyright statement does use the dot, as does the footer. The header happens to not use the dot, as do other instances of that particular font (I have a copy of the current newsletter next to me which omits it). The College itself uses the "dot" in all paperwork, official or not, and it appears without fail throughout the College Constitution as well as the documentation regarding the establishment of the college. Hell, even their mailing address (yes, in Adelaide, what of it?) uses the "dot". The only time it is not used - officially - seems to be in capitalisation. If you require references I would be happy to scan some paperwork for your scrutiny, should you require it. ABVS1936 (talk) 15:18, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

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