User talk:A. B./June 2007

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Re: You know they're hungry for Google love....

		The Spamstar of Glory
		Presented to A. B. for extraordinary effort and diligence fighting spam on Wikipedia.

That was some nest you uncovered there. Fantastic work! -- SiobhanHansa 13:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! --A. B. ^(talk) 22:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

85.185.159.141 has violated spam warning

85.185.159.141 has been adding spam links to Wikipedia again:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/85.185.159.141
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Free_software&diff=prev&oldid=135092996 (example)

You previously gave that IP their "only warning". Gronky 14:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Blocked 1 week. Femto 15:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

RfC

Just wanted to let you know that I opened an RfC on myself in response to the concerns raised during my RfA over my actions in the Gary Weiss dispute. The RfC is located here and I welcome any comments or questions you may have. CLA 12:49, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I looked at this RfC and I don't have any recollection being involved with any of this. Am I missing something? --A. B. ^(talk) 12:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Your comment on Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Armedblowfish#Discussion

Hi A.B. - your oppose seems to be in the neutral section of this debate. Could you take a look when you have a mo, just to clarify for the 'crats so they know where you stand. Thanks! Pedro |  Chat  16:41, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention -- I meant that as an "oppose". I see someone already moved my comment.--A. B. ^(talk) 23:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

yamour.com

Hi. On fy: you removed a link from fy:wikipedia, because of (→Sjoch ek - meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#yamour.com). But I've looked at the page and found it useful, and I've looked up that site on those talk pages, and it says they are not going to be blacklisted. So

1. Why is it blacklisted after all?
2. Why are you removing it?
3. (Are you actually able to read what you're doing or do you not understand Frisian?)

Mysha

Mysha, I already responded in considerable detail to the complaint you left on Meta-wiki:

• meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#yamour.com (permanent link)

I think that will answer your first question.

As to your other questions:

• I removed these links purely as a courtesy. Once blacklisted, these articles are "locked down" by the MediaWiki software and can not be edited until the blacklisted link is deleted or disabled (by putting a space between "http://" and the rest of the link). So someone, somewhere is going to have to disable or remove those links anyway. The pop-up spam filter warning does not make it especially obvious how an editor can fix the problem (at least not to all the people that come to Meta to ask how to fix the problem). I'm not sure it makes a difference whether the person is in fy:Ljouwert, es:Valencia, id:Jakarta or en:Toronto.
• No, I don't read Frysian, but I don't think your spammer did either since, like most cross-wiki spammers, he didn't bother translating his link into Frisian:
  • "[http:// www.yamour.com/evolution/wikipedia.html Wikipedia evolution through time]"
  • The spam link led to a page in English, not Frysian.
  • It seemed pretty straightforward to delete the link without damaging the integrity of the article.
• Given the widespread spamming, GFDL copyright infringement, uncivil behaviour, and Wikipedia content deletion manifested by that person elsewhere on and off-Wikipedia, I think all who have looked at this site have found it very problematic for Wikipedia.

Presently your fy:Wikipedia article is a 4-sentence stub. As you go to expand it, you may wish to look at some of these for sources of references:

1. en:Wikipedia#References
2. fr:Wikipedia#Bibliographie
3. fr:Wikipedia#Notes et références
4. de:Wikipedia#Quellen
5. de:Wikipedia#Literatur
6. de:Wikipedia#Weblinks

I think you may find some stuff you like as much or more than the yamour.com page.

I hope this is helpful.
--A. B. ^(talk) 18:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

PS, I also left you brief notes at:

• meta:User talk:Mysha
• fy:Meidogger oerlis:Mysha#yamour.com
• User talk:Mysha (nl)

--A. B. ^(talk) 18:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Regarding my first question: I understand how this came to pass, though the why is beyond me. Regarding the wording of the spam filter: Is this a MediaWiki message that can be edited to make it more useful? I do understand that you consider your editing a courtesy, but it still means you're removing the text. The fact that someone overenthousiastically added it to all Wikipedia doesn't really hurt fy:, but removing the information does. As you mention yourself, the article is rather short, so reducing it even further might not be such a good idea. (The question about speaking the local language refers to me not being sure it's a good thing to edit pages you're not able to read. Indeed this is what the original contributor did, and what you seem to hold against him.) Why you think all who have looked at that site have found it very problematic for Wikipedia, I do not quite understand. The site appears to give all sorts of information and services, noen harmful to Wikipedia, I'd say. In all, I get the impression that informing the wiki, and letting those that can read it decide, would be preferable to removing those links and, in both instances so far, having that reversed afterwards. Mysha

In the interests of centralizing our discussion in one place, I am responding to this on Meta along with the new concerns and criticisms you have raised there. --A. B. ^(talk) 14:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

hello i have ran into this article while searching up the site name, and i just want to know if you are still blaklisting our site , anyway it might have been true that we sometimes created some content specially to get them linked from wikipedia , but now that you use the nofollow tag you are of no interest for us at all.... but if we are still blacklisted then we will have no choice other than unleash the hords of vandals ... and then i guess we will deserve the punishment you have inflicted on us. consider this as a warning .... regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blakkklist (talk • contribs) 23:44, June 28, 2007) (UTC)

Link cleanup

Excuse the brevity, right now I think I'm going to need my first Wiki-vacation ever (unrelated to this.) Take a look at User:Femto/Link cleanup. It's an updated version of User:A. B./Link cleanup, based on an automated scan of where the frames and scripts of these pages redirect to. (I had to disable 9 blacklisted links to save that page, JFYI.) Unchecked and not complete, but useful I guess. Femto 16:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow -- thanks! --A. B. ^(talk) 16:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Open Proxy

I'm going to email you regarding your questions, I consider proxy testing methods a little sensitive. Cheers! Navou 23:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I got your e-mail -- thanks. --A. B. ^(talk) 22:11, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Swati Wikipedia?

Dear colleague, I saw your vote supporting close Wikipedia siSwati on May 19.

I don't know if you are watching the page, so I think a good idea to inform you about some aspects that could be of your interest.

From May 19, when you arguee your vote because there were "no activity" and "no articles", there are changes in this wiki.

I would like you attend these aspects:

1. May 19, when it was proposed to close, ss: had "2" articles. We have today "36", only in the last month.
2. A Wikipedia project is not consider small (tiny) from 100 articles. In such case, it not should be closed.
3. The last month we have realized in ss: more than "500" editions (933 in all its history).
4. We have last month a similar number of editions to other "active wikis" with the same number of users.

Now, there are articles. Moreover, I don't believe this wiki is inactive. But you are free to continue thinking so.

I hope you like my information.

Thanks for your time. Best regards.--Jatrobat 13:04, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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is wikipedia your life, do you do anything away from wikipedia. Just asking how is your traveling
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.241.232.2 (talk • contribs) 06:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

See:

User talk:Rickie rich#Summary: flo2flo.com accounts and behaviour on Wikipedia

Also:

• Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive231#Legal threats
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2007 Archive Apr#hiphopjazzproduction.com
• m:Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2007/04#hiphopjazzproduction.com
• m:Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2007/04#hiphopjazzproductions.com
• m:Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2007/04#harmonicazone.com
• m:Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007/04/Removals: Not Done#Request for unlisting
• Talk:Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

--A. B. ^(talk) 14:55, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Hi A. B.. Thank you for your support and kind words in my RfA, which passed with 95 support, 1 oppose, and 1 neutral !votes. It means a lot to me to have your individual support and the collective support of so many others. I truly will strive to carry myself at a level representing the trust bestowed in me as I use the mop to address the never-ending drips of discontent in need of caretaker assistance. Jreferee (Talk) 07:38, 30 June 2007 (UTC)