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LGBT legislators

Whatever you may think about the validity or invalidity of Category:LGBT legislators in the United Kingdom, Wikipedia has very clear rules and processes — and one of those rules is that you are not entitled, under any circumstances, to simply vacate an existing category arbitrarily. If you don't like it, you can initiate a discussion at WP:CFD about deleting or renaming it, but you are not permitted to simply empty it out yourself without establishing a consensus for its removal or renaming.

Secondly, if members of British parliaments aren't called "legislators", then explain Category:Legislators in the United Kingdom (which has existed for 15 years without anybody ever taking issue with it).

I've initiated a CFR discussion about potentially renaming the category. But you are not permitted to remove the category from any article or subcategory yourself independently of that discussion arriving at a consensus one way or the other, and trying that stunt again will not be tolerated. Bearcat (talk) 17:01, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

• You created the original category a month ago without really any need to as no one else seems to have wanted or needed to create it. In regard to the Welsh LGBT politicians, what I would suggest is you replace the category you keep adding and create one called LGBT members of the Senedd as that would be the correct category and one that I would happily support. 92.7.77.12 (talk) 18:48, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't matter whether it was created "correctly" or "incorrectly" — you are still STRICTLY FORBIDDEN from emptying out a category in advance of a consensus to delete or rename it, because that is our non-negotiable rule about how the category process works. If anybody could just arbitrarily empty out any category they wanted without discussing it first, then every category on Wikipedia would be instantly emptied just because somebody didn't like it. So whether you like the category or not, you MUST discuss it rather than emptying it out arbitrarily, and that is not up for debate or discussion or disagreement at all. You follow the rules, or you buzz off, because following the rules is how this place works.

Even if there were a separate category created for LGBT members of the Senedd, further, that doesn't actually solve the problem — there still has to be an "LGBT [legislators or a synonym for that] from the United Kingdom" container to parent all of the UK Parliament, Scottish Parliament, Senedd and MEPs categories, so that there's one UK category in Category:LGBT legislators, not four. So even if you don't like "legislators", then there still has to be an alternative to "legislators" created between UK/Scotland/Senedd/MEPs and Category:LGBT legislators, and just creating a subcategory for the Senedd alone does not solve the issue, because it does not answer the relationship of the group with the Category:LGBT legislators parent category.

So, one more time: you may participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 October 21 to suggest a new name for the category that resolves your dislike of the term "legislator" while still serving the same function of ensuring that there's one UK-wide container category between Category:LGBT legislators and the various categories for the different UK legislative bodies. But you are never permitted to just empty out any category yourself without listing it for a CFD/CFR discussion first, because you are obligated to follow our established processes rather than making up your own rules. Bearcat (talk) 19:12, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

October 2021

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November 2021

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UK General Election edits

Hey, I'm Plutonical! I noticed you removed some previous positions of a government member on this page. Now, I know you may not agree with the inclusion of those pieces, but if they're properly sourced, we have to include them. ☢️Plutonical☢️ᶜᵒᵐᵐᵘⁿᶦᶜᵃᵗᶦᵒⁿˢ 13:03, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

• Hi, I checked previous articles, relating to MPs who have retired, and none were previously included so I removed for constituency purposes. 92.7.77.12 (talk) 13:04, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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