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Please help me with... Hi! Can someone explain why the page "Ken Klukowski" (which I created yesterday) was moved to the "Draft" space? The "Talk:Ken Klukowski" page says "13:14, 12 July 2022 Fram talk contribs moved page Talk:Ken Klukowski to Draft talk:Ken Klukowski without leaving a redirect (WP:BLPCRIME issues) (revert) (thank)", so I assume the page has some issues with the "Biographies of Living Persons" policy, and specifically something regarding "a living person accused of a crime," but I am not aware that Mr. Klukowski has been accused of any crime. Any clarification appreciated! 2rock (talk) 14:24, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

The draft claims he was involved with efforts to overturn the election, which is being investigated as a crime. 331dot (talk) 15:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I removed the language implying that Klukowski was involved with efforts to overturn the election and tried to move the article from the Draft space back to the main space, but got a message saying "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid." It's true that a page with the name "Ken Klukowski" already exists, but it just redirects to "Draft"Ken Klukowski." How do I move the page back to the main space? 2rock (talk) 16:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

The answer for WP:BLPCRIME is not to delete valid info about his crimes. The page is not sufficient for mainspace. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:44, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Greetings, I looked at your draft. Yeah one of the guys' jobs is reported in a reliable source or two. But so are a million million other people. To create a biography in live "article space" instead of draft space, you need more to satisfy WP:NOTABILITY. See also WP:INDISCRIMINATE. You have a start, but the bio needs more in order to be something of encyclopedic value, in my view. Otherwise, I would have a page of my own.... but no one would ever care about it! NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:43, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks for the response. I suppose the thing I thought was notable was that he was essentially hired to be an assistant to John Eastman and Jeff Clark during their efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election (and he was mentioned during the House Select Committee's hearings), but that alone is apparently not sufficient for notability. I'm still learning! Thanks again for the info. 2rock (talk) 10:45, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

If you're interested in writing (or improving) biographies of living people, you'll get a great education by adding WP:BLPN to your watchlist, and just reading the discussions for a few weeks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 12:37, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the tip! 2rock (talk) 12:40, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:58, 14 January 2023 (UTC)