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Latest comment: 16 years ago by Deben Dave in topic Austin K2 Edits

Samurai Champloo

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I asked you what you wanted in the way of citations, you ignored me. Now, after a month, and after I spent time looking for things, you come in and delete them anyway. I tried to discuss this once with you, you wouldn't engage me in discussion, you just threatened to delete it. I will continue to revert your deletions until you respond to all the points I raised during our last discussion (search your archive if you can't remember) the only response to which you had was, "cite references. Plain and simple. Otherwise....I will get edit happy.." If you're incapable of having a discussion on the subject with your fellow editors then I suggest we take this to an administrator for arbitration. SpiderMMB 20:34, 4 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

The "two" messages you left me didn't address any of the concerns I raised. I'll repost them for you here (from 21 and 22 April, 2007):
1) There's likely to be little in the way of Wantanabe specifically stating "this is a parody of this," the lone example being his stating that Enter the Dragon and Zatoichi were influences on his work (and even this doesn't mention the specific influences found in Samurai Champloo)...So, I'm curious as to what you think we should do. I could probably dig up cites showing, for instance, who Thomas Savini is and why it's likely that the "Sabini" zombie is a refernce to him. Or to "Hanzo the Razor" which makes it evident why "Manzo the Saw" is so similar. But these seem redundant given that each of the cultural references contain wikilinks where people can see for themselves and decide whether the reference is true or not.
Please note the bolded part where I was "curious as to what you think we should do," and that you never bothered to discuss this with me. That is what I mean by NOT communicating. Also note what I said I thought we should do in order to cite the section, and note that I also went ahead and did this when you never raised an objection to it. Your only response was, "Cite references. Plain and simple. Otherwise....I will get edit happy." Searching through your talk page archives, I see others (specifically, the last post in archive 2 regarding Lupin) have complained about you simply deleting rather than talking in order to reach consensus, which is precisely my problem with you here.
2) With regards to Wikipedia policy:
I read over the links you gave me. This section is relevant:
  1. If it is doubtful but not harmful to the whole article, use the {{fact}} tag to ask for source verification, but remember to go back and remove the claim if no source is produced within a reasonable time.
The references in question are not that doubtful in my opinion, they are pretty obvious. At the very least, they are certainly not harmful. What are you looking for in the way of a citation? You haven't answered that yet and until you do I can't add appropriate cites.

Again, asking for what you wanted in the way of appropriate cites. You never bothered to answer this -- in fact, it was my last communication with you until now. So I went ahead and cited refernces like I said I would in my first post. The first I heard you complain about it is now, when you deleted the content.
3) Finally, I'm not even saying I don't completely understand your OR claim against some of these statements. But you haven't bothered to discuss it with me. If you aren't willing to discuss it with me on our talk pages or the Samurai Champloo page, then this will simply turn into an edit war. To avoid that, I would ask that either
a) you address the issues I raised above or;
b) if you can't do that, we ask an administrator to arbitrate.
Thanks, SpiderMMB 05:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Stig/HSE reports

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Totally, the report does not say he is the Stig, but neither does "In the Health and Safety Executive report into the accident of Richard Hammond Ben Collins was named as a person "who worked closely with Top Gear as a high performance driver and consultant."" No conclusion is drawn - that's left up to the reader. Surely you agree with that? If the statement was saying "the Health and Safety Executive report into the accident of Richard Hammond Ben Collins was named as a person "who worked closely with Top Gear as a high performance driver and consultant," i.e. the role of The Stig" -- or something similar I could understand your removal of it. As it is I honestly don't. Mark83 05:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

So would you be happy with something like "In the Health and Safety Executive report into the accident of Richard Hammond, Ben Collins was named as a person "who worked closely with Top Gear as a high performance driver and consultant." However this generalised description of his involvement on that day does not allow a conclusion to be drawn as to his actual role." -- That might be a bit too clumbsy - it's just a 1st draft. Mark83 12:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
Very constructive! Mark83 12:20, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
I don't want to appear think skinned here or anything but I'm wondering why you engaged in debate and then turned dismissive about my attempts to reach a solution. Had we reached an agreement we wouldn't have IPs adding "A report that was published after an investigation into Top Gear presenter Richard Hammond's high-speed crash seemed to suggest that Ben Collins is in fact The Stig." [1]! Mark83 15:56, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
OK, sorry. I read that as "let someone who knows what they're doing rewrite it" or the equivalent of! Apologies! You want to go ahead with the paragraph above (12:12 edit)? Mark83 20:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

So, you're the one behind "Pigs over 1000 pounds" being on Front page!

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One of the few DYKs I've ever clicked. Certainly drew me in :) 24.205.34.217 06:07, 8 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Talk page comment

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Hi, I've finally been able to respond to your comment on my talk page. --Carabinieri 21:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:1145232285414.jpg

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Image:1148877829550.jpg listed for deletion

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An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:1148877829550.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:21, 19 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned non-free media (Image:WikiscannerScrsht.jpg)

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(replying to message on my talk page) — I did inform you, just now. —Remember the dot (talk) 22:06, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Armor Holdings, Inc. edit

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Hi. I have three problems with your edit.

  1. You just copied and pasted the info which amounted to dumping - because you didn't alter the context from Presidential State Car (United States) to take account of what is already covered at the Armor article.
  2. The copy and paste did not include the full reference ""British company agrees to buy Armor Holdings". The Associated Press (in English). 2007-05-08. Retrieved 2007-05-22. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)" but just the title"<ref name="armor"/>" -- providing a blank reference in the ref section.
  3. Removing info from an article is perfectly legitimate. However you included no links to either O'Gara, Hess and Eisenhart, Armor Holdings, BAE Systems Inc. or BAE Systems plc.

All in all very unsatisfactory. Mark83 22:37, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

No sorry, not a valid excuse. If somebody threw a grenade into my house and I solved the problem by throwing it into yours would you be happy? If someone put inappropriate text into Presidential State Car (United States) you should have taken it up with them, not made mistakes of your own. Mark83 23:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Please try to integrate "Popularity and Influence" on Mythbusters article

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User:293.xx.xxx.xx: Your edits to Mythbusters has been reverted for now. You did leave in your edit summary that no attempt to integrate this section has been made. This may be true, but I believe that this section of the article was rather important. I will try to integrate this section somehow into the rest of the article. Southern Illinois SKYWARN 13:26, 21 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

2009 Lost Memories

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I see that you reinserted the banner back in the article. The facts that are listed are facts from the movie itself. Can you explain why you reinserted this back in? Thanks.melonbarmonster 19:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

Digimon images on Editing of anime in American distribution

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Hi! I saw that you were able to combine the Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z images into two new images for that article. I was hoping that you could do the same for the Digimon logo images, too. I would do it myself, but I'm not that intelligent when it comes to technology. I hope it isn't that difficult or will take too much time, so that you will be able to do it. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pitman6787 (talkcontribs) 16:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned non-free media (Image:ADVPrettySoldierSailorMoonDVDBoxset.JPG)

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Inappropriate edit summary

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Please be more civil in your edit summaries; stuff like this is divisive and serves only to make people mad at each other. It does not help the project. --Masamage 21:43, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Your semantics are confusing, but I won't bother to argue them. Since "bothering to read stuff" is clearly important to you, please take a moment review the guideline I linked above, which explicitly explains why your edit summary was inappropriate. If you have a problem with this rule, you should take it up on the talk page there, not with me. Whether or not he deserved it is immaterial. --Masamage 21:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sailor Moon (English adaptations)

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DYK

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  On October 22, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Iao Theater, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Damnit, Janet!

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I'm tired. After you removed the OR, Jreferee put it all back. I took it out, and put out an RFC. Two weeks later, I get a single comment from someone that clearly doesn't understand what OR and synthesis are, to wit: "The charge of original research with regard to the title of the song being used as a light-hearted rebuke is groundless. Such usage is self-evident". Care to go defend your original deletion?Kww 04:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

The AfD nomination title should have said "3rd nomination", not "Third Time". Wryspy 21:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
"gomen"? Sorry, I don't understand. Wryspy 21:47, 30 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
Ah. Thanks. For all I knew, it was short for some Internet lingo I wasn't familiar with. Wryspy 21:52, 30 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned non-free media (Image:GhostwriterTC.jpg)

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DYK

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  On 2 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chinese Society Halls on Maui, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
  On 2 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Wo Hing Society Hall, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 13:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Love the nick!

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Had me guessing, how the hell did this guy mask his IP! Had to think about it for a moment. LOL Cute!

--DP67 (talk/contribs) 08:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

DYK

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  On 25 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Christmas kettle, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wknight94 (talk) 19:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Overseas Chinese benevolent associations picture concern

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Before I added my pics, can you please try and see if the pics I used for Wo Hing Society Hall and Chinese Society Halls on Maui would fit as well to your picture concern. --293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 07:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

You're going to have to refresh my memory on what was my concern. You don't link to the relevant discussion. (Please answer back on my user talk page. Thanks.) - Jmabel | Talk 07:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

AfD nomination of List of pigs over 1000 pounds

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I have nominated List of pigs over 1000 pounds, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of pigs over 1000 pounds. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Whitstable (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Ah, apologies. I had AfD'd the article then almost immediately changed my mind - forgot to remove this tag. The problem I had/have is that it does seem to be full of original research, there is no explanation why only pigs over 1000 pounds rather than some other figure. Also, of the pigs in the wild, the first may not be genuine, the second was weighed at less than 1000 pounds and the fourth is an estimate Whitstable (talk) 19:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

List of pigs over 1000 pounds

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:RhinoRunner.JPG

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:RhinoRunnerIEDexplosion.JPG

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Never Gonna Give You Up

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I am mentioning Seth MacFarlane's performance of the song in a "Cover versions" section of the article, along with another performance of the song by Tay Zonday. Such a section is a feature of several of the articles given as examples in WP:SONGS, such as the one on "Smells Like Teen Spirit", and both performances are by notable vocalists. InnocuousPseudonym (talk) 03:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. InnocuousPseudonym (talk) 05:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Orphaned non-free media (Image:BlackLagoonJaken.jpg)

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Stop removing my image from List of U.S. state license plates

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You have repeatedly removed my self-made image of my cancelled Louisiana license plate from this page. The image is properly sourced, attributed and licensed as it is self-made. It provides a relevant example of a current Louisiana license plate. There is NO reason you should continue to remove this image. --Mr. Brown (talk) 22:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Fine fine, I'm wrong, sorry. But your mass revision DID take my image off the page; there is no denying that. If you're going to revert to a previous revision that is several days old, perhaps you should check on the revision that you were going to use. There were plenty of revisions that contained appropriate images (and less "SAMPLE" images) which you obviously did not use. --Mr. Brown (talk) 23:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Austin K2 Edits

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The guide is just a guide and is much better presented the way it was. I have taken the trouble to take these pictures and uploaded them in good faith. People going around applying the rules strictly without helping the content will certainly turn people away from contributing in the future.

Well I dont agree about the pictures but guess I am not going to win over a professional like you and really sorry I forgot to sign my post sir. I will leave the K2 site to some body else now even though I have access to one of the very few reamining K2s in the world. Deben Dave (talk) 10:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Reply