2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D

September 2019

These edits are not improvements, thus

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:11, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:13, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

You seem to fail to recognize a grammastical error when you see it. A field gosl is not an attempt when it is complerterd; only when it is missed uet to say field goal attempts is using attempst as a substitute for kick. Learn your terminology. OIt is not disuptive editing per WP. It is grammatically and illogical what you insist upon.2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk) 03:16, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

• If you continue to change the traditional terminology without reaching a consensus among editors, it is disruptive. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

I have asked the WP community at large to comment about the situation of completed field goal kicks being called attempts when if they are completed they become completed field goals resulting in game points. A review of WP will show that not all mentions of field goals say they are always attempts especially when they have been successful point bearing kicks. If you would like to consider editing these inaccuracies then let the WP community have a say. Correcting grammar and misunderstandings is not what is very cordial in the WP tradition. But if you feel otherwise then let us see what happens.2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk) 03:27, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

• I'd be more gentle with the certainty that your edits represent grammatical corrections--even aside from the attempts/kicks business, they're, at best, inconsistent thus far. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:32, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

No further comment even as a rebuttal to what may be a cheap shot. Maybe, the terminology is confusing to those that persist in a error made without understanding it. I can understand what is it that is being attempted to be expressed but an attempt is not the same thing as a completion so how can one aspect be accept for another. The use of field goal attempts is not universally used in WP and there may be a reason why. Let us keep to the issue of whether attempts are the same as completion and if WP endorses the use of confusing terminology in its work.2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk) 03:42, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

• It's not intended as a cheap shot. But if you continue to make edits that are not improvements on current content, and in some cases create broken sentences and syntax, then these are, despite their intention, disruptive. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:32, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

If you are concerned about how you are perceived then you should keep cheap shots to yourself--it does not help.2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk) 04:34, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

• I'm concerned about the encyclopedia. Your edits were generally not improvements. Should they persist I'll either start a conversation at the administrators or vandalism notice boards. In American football, the accepted and correct format has long been to refer to field goals attempted and field goals made. take care, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

If you are concerned about how you are perceived then you should keep cheap shots to yourself--it does not help. I'll wait for the concensus of WP.2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk) 04:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

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And the intro to this. I just don't have the energy right now to revert every inane edit. Thanks, 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:23, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

• To extend on this, I'd appreciate administrative eyes--Oshwah, JJMC89 or Drmies. Lots of poor, if not disruptive editing. Looks like at least two accounts are being used to make the same sort of edits, many of which involve overlinking or adding odd categories, per [1] and [2] from the registered account and this tangle that I un-knotted, mostly from the IP [3]. Given the long histories of both accounts, it would be no surprise if more are involved. If you like I can drop this at ANI. Happy weekend. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bob! Sorry for the late response! I just got finished with taking my MacBook Pro apart and having the thermal compound on its CPU and GPU replaced. It's nine years old, and it was long overdue... ;-) Sure, lets have you create that ANI, and include all of the diffs, information, and comparisons between these users that you can. This'll make everything easier, as multiple admins will be able to shed eyes on this and provide input. :-) Let me know when you've done so, and I'll take a look at it and comment. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:54, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you, Oshwah, I may do that. At the moment, I'm more likely to visit ANI regarding the contributions of 2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk · contribs), who made perhaps dozens of poor edits with the conviction that they were improvements. A discussion was begun at the teahouse, where I expect it to gain little interest. But not tonight. Too late. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:47, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

No worries, Bob. Get some sleep and we'll talk tomorrow. Keep me posted and I'll take a look at this IP user and see what I can find in the meantime... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:29, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

I can see accusations of sock puppetry developing with 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:47, 22 September 2019 (UTC) and another per their talk pages.

The only reason i make this statement is that I can see it coming.

I use my IP addresses because WP endorses it as a credible form of identification although it seems that there never seems to be stop in being advised by those that user a registered username to do otherwise. I am not concerned with being able to identify the general location of my IP address. I am certain that there are those within WP that have access to at least as provider and maybe even as much as a zip code. I value my privacy and it is far more likely to discover my identity through a user name than a IP address. I do know that certain levels of information are available to people in WP that are not available to all. And as I have cautioned over zealous W'deans as long as WP endorses it I will use my iP address as my WP identifier whatever that number may be because for whatever reason my provider issues it to me whenever I use WP. I have no control over it and I certainly do not do gobs of edits all over the place limiting to certain areas so why would i be a sockpuppet. If you want to steamroll a conspiracy reaction out of it. Yah, I go into WP in order to cause such havoc with discovery of misspellings. That is a conspiratorial action.It certainly would be far more spycraft to develop user names that on their face appear unassociated. But I know that this explanation can never measure up to the investment by others that do use a registered user name with WP feel toward IP address identifier users. There will always be the schism between registered name users toward IP address users.2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk) 10:34, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American football#Meaning of "field goal attempt"

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American football#Meaning of "field goal attempt". -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:39, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

Hi 2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D! You created a thread called Is a field goal an attempt if it results in points or only when it is missed or blocked? at Wikipedia:Teahouse, but it has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still find the archived discussion here. If you have any additional questions that weren't answered then, please create a new thread. Archival by Lowercase sigmabot III, notification delivery by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} (ban this bot) or {{nobots}} (ban all bots) on your user talk page. Muninnbot (talk) 19:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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