107.159.46.12

Walter Gorlitz mixes his personnal view and radical criminal ideology with constructive commenting

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to User talk:Walter Görlitz, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:21, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Walter, you seem to again mix your personnal views and radical criminal ideology with constructive commenting.

I reverted your removal on your page and ask (this one time) that you keep it on your page as a reminder of your spamming of others and your need to look up people history before spamming them with policies some of whom I helped create.

It's not a mistake on your part, your clearly abusing your powers for something I wrote that was sourced and from a credible news paper journalistic in nature and not like your Opinion or ideologically based.

Walter you have yet to point out to what was "your" disagreement.

--107.159.46.12 (talk) 03:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits referred to above, consider creating an account for yourself or logging in with an existing account so that you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

In short, do not tell experienced editors not to supply welcome notices on talk pages of other editors. If you want to sabotage your own editing by ignoring the instructions on welcome pages, feel free to, but it is incumbent on all Wikipedians to be welcoming to new editors. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:29, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I identified your spamming properly after two years of usage, saying your inviting them to wikipedia is just ridiculous and a form of abuse and exercise in your own problem with reality. Stop reverting other people writings you have a disagreement with especially on "talk" pages.

--107.159.46.12 (talk) 03:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

And further, your claim that you have been editing for years is not borne out in your edit history: Special:Contributions/107.159.46.12. If you have an account, use it. If you don't, do not expect experienced editors to know that you are IP-hopping. Also, there are many, subtle issues with your edits that make it clear to me, at least, that you have not been editing on Wikipedia for years. Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:19,

I don't make claims I have wikipedia entry in english and in french that goes back to 12 years. I choose not to identify myself.

I do, when I fell and deem it necessary. I don't need to ask you permission to do anything at all especially on "talk" pages.

Someone who don't see a 2 year history and spam a inviting edit is not someone anyone serious consider an experienced editors.

I am open to discuss your many criminal views and many failed ideology in the open. Unlike you I have nothing to hide and I don't spam others or attack them with a your a newbie who don't know what they are doing after two years on this IP to someone wh has 12 years of Wikipedia editing.

You have an issue with someone sourced and journalistically based writing HIT the reply and have a conversation the delete button is not there for you to use at all and abuse to mute someone who you disagree with based on your criminal support and radical ideology.

Have a Nice day Walter , I hope you get the chance to use the medical help in Canada and Ottawa at your disposal that your entitled to since you claim to be a citizen of both the capital city and country so that you can be deprogrammed from your terrorist brainwashing and dictatorial teachings of the known terrorist rights.

--107.159.46.12 (talk) 03:33, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

So you want me look-up editors' histories. I showed your history and your claim that you have a long one here is a lie. If you have a registered account, it is not linked to this IP address. There is no way fro non-admins (and many admins) to link them. A long-term editor would know that. You claim you have nothing to hide, yet you are hiding from your supposed registered account. I do not spam any editors. What you call spamming is known as a welcome message. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:59, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

No, I want you to look up editor history before spam posting a newbie invite for a 2 years editor shown by this IP.

Well, the only "liar" is you here. Anyone can press my contribution here and see my first post on this IP to be 07:17, 13 November 2020 ... 2022 - 2020 = 2 years.

I am not the one deleting others "talk" post , which is your first issue that started your newbie spamming.

You spammed my IP page with newbie help ... that you deleted

curprev 18:21, 2 February 2022‎ Walter Görlitz talk contribs‎ 1,407 bytes +1,407‎ General note: Unconstructive editing on User talk:Walter Görlitz. undo Tag: Twinkle curprev 03:54, 1 February 2022‎ Walter Görlitz talk contribs‎ empty −8,850‎ apparently does not want to be welcomed per the annoying message left on my talk talk, so will report if unconstructive edits continue undo Tag: Blanking curprev 22:40, 31 January 2022‎ Walter Görlitz talk contribs‎ 8,850 bytes +8,850‎ Welcome to Wikipedia! Tag: Twinkle

So AGAIN you are caught lying , you also deleted my post on your "talk" page , that was a reminder that in the future you need to look up the history dates before spamming the personnal talk page with the newbie scripts. after you deleted my other journalsitic and sourced post you disagree with based on criminal and terrorist ideology of the right on other talk pages

We are done here. your own talk page history if FULL of others saying the same thing that you deleted.

--107.159.46.12 (talk) 04:47, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

February 2022

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:107.159.46.12. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Meters (talk) 07:00, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

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Hi anonymous, who use the meter system to hide is real identity to troll and attack people he disagree with personally.

I can't comment on content because at the heart of both your fake accounts problem is the fact that you deleted sourced and journalistic content based on your criminal and terrorist failed ideology of the right.

That has to be among the "stupiest" thing ever, almost no Wikipedian reader read or know how to read talk pages or care about them and the fact that you suggest high level damage and detering of great effect about them is based of your criminal views and lies only.

I am cool when editing. I am also cool when using talk page to give journalistic credible source. I am not cool with the one who use there editor status to do like you and harass anynoumsly other who caugh you in the atc of defacing and being the anti-these of a wiki , especially on "talk" pages.

We first wikipedians decided to allow anonymous editing of page and access to submit content to talk pages, who the two of you who are probably the same guy on two account to go against the Foundation Wikimedia project choice and wished for your criminal and terrorist failed ideology ? Especially on "talk" pages.

The answer two criminal who need ot be deplatformed and sued to such an ammount to no others criminal and terrorist of the right can abuse or thing about abusing the editor privileges.

107.159.46.12 (talk) 05:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:107.159.46.12. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Meters (talk) 05:52, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

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Do you understand that you will likely be blocked if you keep this up? user:Walter Görlitz and I are not the same person. We are not socks, we are not criminals, and we are not terrorists. And you should read WP:NLT. Meters (talk) 05:55, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

My understanding, is very different from yours. Not even in the same Galaxy.

Please do define here what you mean to accuse me of by "this".

You claim to be two diffrent people, who just happen to use the exact same proxy ? Got it.

No legal threat here, I did not write that I would sue you, I am discussing the enacted procedure to deal with far right alt-right criminal and terrorist who defame the editors and administration role on wikipédia by Wikipédia and are known to attack who they perceive has easy prey and small editors over their failed criminal terrorist ideology.

Just so we get on the same page.

1. I wrote something sourced and constitutionnaly accurate on the Talk:Maverick Party page , notice the "talk".

2. Far-right and alt-right user:Walter Görlitz reverted / deleted it because he disagreed with it.

3. He continued his agression and attack by spamming my talk page with newbie content

4. I wrote on his talk page , what is up with the spamming can we discuss your criminal and terrorist issue like adult ?

5. he deleted it and deleted is spamming and wrote a condescending lies he wrongly tought I would not know or be able to read.

03:54, 1 February 2022‎ Walter Görlitz talk contribs‎  empty −8,850‎  apparently does not want to be welcomed per the annoying message left on my talk talk, so will report if unconstructive edits continue

6. I reposted on his page my message asking him what was his issue

7. He falsely accused me of attacking him and switched to his proxy second account called Meters with higher administrator rights or even worst called on another far-right buddie of his to harrass and attack me on my page and make threats

8. He keep demanding I make an account , of wich I am under no obligation to do so.

9. I and not you have not broken Wikipedia TOS , no law of the country I live in and where the Wikipedia server are hosted.

10. I am in the process of identifying you so that I can enact the proper wiipédia procedures for far right alt-right.

11. I will not be the one suing you at all. Thats his your failed and complete misunderstanding of this situation entirely.

I have ZERO issue with legal and honest editor who delete my text to rewrite it and displace it's content for better understanding on page

I have issues with reverting/deleting just to remove content some criminal and terorrist group don't like has it shows them in a bad light on page. 5X more on Talk page, where the purpose his and has always been a discussion.

Criminal and terrorist always do what they do, because good people let them, until those

with real power don't.

have a nice day

107.159.46.12 (talk) 08:53, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at User talk:107.159.46.12. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. I don't know what you and Walter were discussing elsewhere and I don't care. His talk page is on my watch list because I posted there fairly recently. I saw you restoring material that he had removed, so I checked your edit history, saw large posts to your talk page and discovered your personal attacks (the "this" you are asking about). You have repeatedly called us socks. That is an attack. You have told Walter to get medical help. That is an attack. You have called him a liar (and no, your Nov 2020 to Feb 2022 edit history is 15 months, not two years). That is an attack. You have called us criminals. That is an attack. Your statement " I am in the process of identifying you so that I can enact the proper wiipédia [sic] procedures for far right alt-right." is a threat, but a lame one as you cannot identify us. Your claim that Walter and I are using the same proxy is ridiculous. We're using our Wikipedia accounts, not IPs, and again, you can't tell what the underlying IPs are. Feel free to take us to SPI, but it would be a complete waste of time. User:Walter Görlitz and I have both had our accounts for many years, we both have many edits, and we have very little overlap in edits. Based on an IP that Walter has stated that he sometimes uses, I happen to know that Walter and I are not even in the same province or state, let alone the same city. I could list more attacks, but there's no point. Last chance. Stop now or you will be reported. Meters (talk) 10:30, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

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Thanks for providing another menace and proof of your many abuses on my Talk page.

"I don't know what you and Walter were discussing elsewhere and ***I don't care."***

Your long attacking content here show the total opposite. If you did not care as you put it, you would have told us both to be nice as per YOUR second account administrator level regulations. You decided to pick a side.

It's a "talk" page not a "page" to watch.

No I restored my discussion and point you and him had to remember , but it does not matter now YOU are way past that.

You keep lying and claiming I made personnal attacks. I asked what was his issues.

People who use the exact same proxy are socks

No it's a statement of facts.

" You have told Walter to get medical help."

No that's what you tell people who are unstable need to get to be healthy.

Because he his a liar.

Ok , I GRANT YOU THAT one 15 month. It does not mather in YOUR CASE anyway. The issue is not your mathematical profeciency here at all.

2020 2021 2022 = two years

after 15 Month would you consider yourself a newbie ?

" That is an attack. "

Just to be crystal clear you saying "That is an attack." does not make it so at all.

No Criminals destroy other people work hence I called you for what you truely are and your destroying of my work. Accuracy 100%

Your statement " I am in the process of identifying you so that I can enact the proper wiipédia [sic] procedures for far right alt-right."

I don't make threat nor statement.

Well your other far right alt-righ friend tought so too.

YOU are the one who introduced the socks argument.

It will not be my job to uncover if you are one indvidual or two far right alt-righ co-conspirators.

You got more far right alt-right friends in your ring, PLEASE do invite them all. Make the end result that more easy.

Remove the need to look up who is protecting you in doing this to me and others (as per your own log)

I await the next master in your ring of far right alt-right.

You two far right would not act like this without higher protection , that's not an attack that a statement of fact.

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