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Happy editing! Bon courage (talk) 07:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Campaign messages

Please stop abusing WP:ES for campaign messages about blocking policy, Bon courage (talk) 07:19, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

So please fix the policy policy & practices.

I have tried other routes with no success. You call it "abuse". I call it a peaceful protest.

—DIV (1.145.73.131 (talk) 12:11, 17 November 2023 (UTC))

Okay, I have opened WP:ANI#Using edit summaries for a campaign about this. Bon courage (talk) 12:42, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

If you want a change made to policy, discuss it on one of the policy talk pages. RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:59, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

"discuss it on one of the policy talk pages."

Unhelpful. Which policy talk page specifically? And where can I find them?

Also, as noted in my update (made before your block or post), the issue is actually with practices too — by which I mean policies/guidelines not being enforced/followed. (In hindsight "policies" was a bit narrow; what I had in mind includes guidelines.)

Secondly, it's a bit of a fluke that I am able to reply here, because with access on an IP address that is (more-or-less) randomly assigned by the ISP I either won't be aware of the correspondence and/or block or I will be aware of the block but won't easily be able to read the correspondence and won't be able to (directly) reply — i.e. on the relevant User Talk page. So that's yet another flaw in the system.

I note on the WP:ANI thread that some editors have expressed unease about the present block or disagree with it being applied. I won't overreach to claim a clear consensus, but want you to consider the hypothetical. If User:RickinBaltimore's block were deemed excessive by consensus, would there really be any blowback on User:RickinBaltimore?

Anyway, I give credit to User:Bon_courage for opening the Administrators' discussion thread, and thank those participating in that discussion in a fair and open-minded way.

—DIV

P.S. Yes, I signed off the previous edit with the same 'signature' in the edit summary, mainly because I was miffed at this being described off the bat as "abuse", which seemed too strongly worded for my liking. Although I suppose at least there was a "Please" in there....

P.P.S. The last IP range block that I fell victim to was at least 6 months long. (I think it may have been longer.) I tried to argue the merits of it (nothing to do with my own edits, by the way), but got no constructive response.

Actually in my experience of questioning the rationale for a block I have been accused of being the/a vandal and I have been told I'm abusing the system merely for interrogating the merits of a specific block. Not every response has been like that ...but I reckon the majority have.

(1.145.73.131 (talk) 05:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC))

Following up on the topic of "If User:RickinBaltimore's block were deemed excessive by consensus, would there really be any blowback on User:RickinBaltimore?", it is notable how quickly the trigger was pulled on the block.

As context, I might say that I have been adding this message for an extended period of time. Apparently without causing too much harm or concern. At least, not so much that any action must be taken urgently.

Anyway, what do we see from the Admin discussion? User:Bon_courage asks the question "Not a good idea?" OK, perhaps it can be interpreted as a leading question, especially in view of the original comments (above) on this Talk page. But it's a question nonetheless. First response, from User:Czello: "Interesting". Then, 15 minutes after the question was asked, User:RickinBaltimore brings in the block. Set aside the duration of the block, and focus for a moment on the process, or whether an appropriate procedure was followed. The matter was deemed to be in a sufficiently 'grey area' that a discussion should be had. Had consensus been reached before the action was taken? This might again make one wonder whether some Admin's feel that they can act with impunity.

—DIV (1.145.73.131 (talk) 06:00, 18 November 2023 (UTC))

November 2023

Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for persistently making disruptive edits.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  RickinBaltimore (talk) 12:56, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

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