にょろん

A belated welcome!

Sorry for the belated welcome, but the cookies are still warm!

Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, にょろん. I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:

• Introduction
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• How to write a great article
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Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page, consult Wikipedia:Questions, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there.

Again, welcome! User:Pigsonthewing (talk) 14:06, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. The cookie looks yummy. -- signed by Nyoron / にょろん 13:39, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "にょろん", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it may be impossible to see or type for editors without Japanese input/Japanese scripts installed. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. I just wanted to make sure you were aware you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. I would recommend at least registering an account with a romanization and including it in brackets in your signature. Intelligentsium 23:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

@Intelligentsium:According to Wikipedia:Username policy@(by Elvey at 22:26, 16 January 2016), for non-latin characters, it is saying ...

Usernames with non-Latin characters

See also: Wikipedia:Signatures § Non-Latin

There is no requirement that usernames be in English. Furthermore, contributors are welcome to use usernames that are not spelled using the Latin alphabet, but should bear in mind that scripts of non-Latin languages (such as Arabic, Cyrillic, Chinese, Greek or Japanese) are illegible to most contributors to the English Wikipedia, and sometimes the characters may not appear correctly. To avoid confusion and aid navigation, users with such usernames are encouraged to use Latin characters in their signature.

For signature, I may need to change the style, but Username itself is not violating any part of the above citation. If you think it is, then you should provide the explanation and the part it is violating. The reason that notifier Intelligentsium has provided is pointless and can not be the evidence saying that the username violates the username policy. Signed by Nyoron / にょろん (talk) 10:20, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, I don't mean to suggest that you could be blocked or anything for your username, I'm sorry if it came across that way! I've stricken the bit about a violation as that was not my intention with the message. We do have projects in over 200 languages after all, but just wanted to let you know that users are strongly encouraged to have a Latin version as your username showed up as just a row of four boxes on my computer, which could be quite confusing for other users, especially newer users or users not familiar with other language scripts. Intelligentsium 13:41, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

@Intelligentsium: If this is not the issue of username, I'd like to ask you to remove my page from the tracking category. [[Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues|{{PAGENAME}}]] For that, this code should be removed from this talk page, the comment you placed in the first welcome. This is because comments should not be changed by other users, based on wiki's guideline.

Next, regarding the fonts, if you have Windows Vista, 7, 8, or later your operating system is pre-bundled with Japanese fonts and everything necessary to start reading Japanese websites and documents with no additional setup ^Ref-1. Technically, the font issues are client side's issue. Most clients are windows and smart phones. Fonts are provided by those makers. I suggest to install unicode fonts. It is the defact standard now.

-- signed by Nyoron / にょろん 12:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Addition. The policy is saying "but should bear in mind that scripts of non-Latin languages (such as Arabic, Cyrillic, Chinese, Greek or Japanese) are illegible to most contributors to the English Wikipedia". This is non-sense. Western culture has a signature instead of a seal. They write signs in many ways, and those are similar to those foreign characters such as arabic or japanese Hiragana. and I am using this as the signature. not for scripting. -- signed by Nyoron / にょろん 12:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for including a Latin name. I've removed the category. It's true many modern operating systems include but you need to keep in mind not all editors uses Windows or has the most up-to-date hardware and software; we have editors from all over the world and all walks of life, including countries where the newest hardware isn't widely available. "Western culture has a signature instead of a seal" - yes, but on Wikipedia we don't use seals or signatures per se; the signature is just to identify a user. I'm not objecting to your use of Japanese script for aesthetic or personal identification reasons, but I do appreciate that you have given non-Japanese readers a way to identify you. Intelligentsium 23:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Intelligentsium-san,

I do appreciate that you have given non-Japanese readers a way to identify you.

I am not going to object or against, for the part. Some unknown language is a bit difficult to distinguish for me, too. -- signed by Nyoron / にょろん 11:40, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Pointless templates and modules

Template:Sign with English Signature, Template:Hide TemplateData, and Module:REVISIONUSER all seem pointless to me. When would any of those actually be used? Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:24, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I understand you think so.

Try to use {{subst:Sign with English Signature}} it works and you can change the time display, which you can not change by your preference menu.

For Hide TemplateData, it is a template for CSS. so the template/module is not the main. Do you know any other places to be listed such CSS ? I think new name space CSS may be created for the list of CSS.

For REVISIONUSER, I may move the page to my local place. It seems like I can not develop what I was intended, but still under construction.

Signed by Nyoron / にょろん (talk) @12:53:46, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

For Sign with English Signature, you absolutely should not be changing how the time looks. There's bots here that parse times in signatures and rely on how they work, and it's also incompatible with mw:Extension:Echo.

For Hide TemplateData, there already is sort of a CSS namespace. Any subpage of your userspace that ends in .css gets treated as CSS, and you can @import those from your common.css. Please do move it there.

For REVISIONUSER, I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish. If you explain that, I can probably help with it. Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:01, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Please wait until I move them. -- signed by Nyoron / にょろん 10:49, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

For Module:REVISIONUSER, I could not perform the move.

I got the message.You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:

"Module:REVISIONUSER" cannot be moved to "Module:Sandbox/にょろん/REVISIONUSER", because the title "Module:Sandbox/にょろん/REVISIONUSER" is on the title blacklist. If you feel that this move is valid, please consider requesting the move first.

It seems like I can not move module pages. I could move templates pages under my User page.

@Jackmcbarn:-san Do you know anything why it is restricted ?

I did

mw.ext.TitleBlacklist.test('move','Module:Sandbox/にょろん/REVISIONUSER')

The return was the followng table dumped partly.

moveonly> # Disallows moves with more than nine consecutive capital letters, version=3, regex=.*\p{Lu}(\P{L}*\p{Lu}){9}.*, message=titleblacklist-forbidden-move, moveonly=true, casesensitive=true,

For Module:Hide TemplateData, I did mw.ext.TitleBlacklist.test('move','Module:Sandbox/にょろん/Hide TemplateData') and got the table

Wikipedia)( talk)?:|Talk:)\P{L}*\p{Latin}.*[^\p{Latin}\P{L}].* <moveonly> # Latin + non-Latin, version=3, regex=(?!(User|Wikipedia)( talk)?:|Talk:)\P{L}*\p{Latin}.*[^\p{Latin}\P{L}].*, message=titleblacklist-forbidden-move, moveonly=true,

-- signed by Nyoron / にょろん 13:04, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I think requested move has been completed. -- signed by Nyoron / にょろん 13:16, 10 May 2016 (UTC)