אקעגן

Please leave your message at the bottom of the page in a new section. I shall reply there. If you do not follow this simple instruction, I will probably just revert your edit.

May 2024

To enforce an arbitration decision, and for WP:ECR violations, you have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 1 week Wikipedia. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. 

ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

I do not respond to emails about blocks unless there is a privacy concern. You were blocked for violating the WP:ECR sanction that you were informed of here. You removed the notification, demonstrating that you had seen it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Would you like me to copy your appeal to WP:AN or WP:AE? I would also like to impress on you that "Yes, I did it" after removing the WP:CTOP notice without comment is unlikely to gain a clear and substantial consensus to overturn the sanction. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Isn't the notice for me? Why would there be consequences for clearing my talk page? אקעגן (talk) 15:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:OWNTALK, The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user so your removal of the CTOP alert means you are responsible for following the rules outlined in the notification. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

If you would like me to move the appeal, you need to let me know if you want to appeal at WP:AN or WP:AE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

My contention is that it was not clear to me that the talk page itself that I couldn't edit it, since evidently, only part of the page couldn't be edited by me. (I don't know why they don't just make strict editing policies an aspect of the website infrastructure to avoid this altogether.)

In any case, is there any practical difference between these two options? אקעגן (talk) 18:57, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

At AE admins make the decision, and at AN it's a consensus of uninvolved editors. AE is more structured and less often turns into a zoo.

You could also read the information that was provided about the WP:CTOP designation on the Arab/Israel conflict and WP:ARBECR and demonstrate that you understand and will abide by the sanctions in the topic area in an unblock request ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. AE sounds like a better option, so let's give that a try. Worst comes to worst I can just wait a few more days I suppose. אקעגן (talk) 12:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

[1] ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by אקעגן

Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear and substantial consensus of uninvolved administrators" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action.

To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED).

Appealing user

אקעגן (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) – אקעגן (talk) 15:26, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Sanction being appealed

See above

Administrator imposing the sanction

ScottishFinnishRadish (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)

Notification of that administrator

The appealing editor is asked to notify the administrator who made the enforcement action of this appeal, and then to replace this text with a diff of that notification. The appeal may not be processed otherwise. If a block is appealed, the editor moving the appeal to this board should make the notification.

Statement by אקעגן

I only made a change to a talk page, which is usually the way I can make my opinions known on a locked or protected page. The notice that it was only for extended confirmed users was on the top of the section, and not on the top of the page, so I missed it. I believe a week block is fairly severe under this circumstance. I have read through CTOP and ARBECR, and will abide by these rules to avoid this in the future.

Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by אקעגן

Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

Result of the appeal by אקעגן

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

June 2024

Hello, I'm R9tgokunks. I noticed that you recently removed content from Portal:Current events/2024 June 8 without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please do not remove content that was sourced from linked news articles. - R9tgokunks ⭕ 21:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

My edit was correct, and should not have been reverted. None of the sources claim that Hamas or the IDF claim respectively that 210+ or <100 civilians were killed, only that that many people were killed. Certainly, some proportion of those are militants. The phrasing currently suggests that hundreds of civilians were killed, with more militants dead on top of that. Please restore my edit. אקעגן (talk) 21:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Your edit was incorrect and should have indeed been reverted. And you are wrong on all points. Please read the sources.

*1. "Palestinian officials said killed more than 200 people, one of the single bloodiest Israeli assaults of the eight-month-old war."

*2. "...the spokesperson, Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari, said. "We know about under 100 (Palestinian) casualties. I don't know how many from them are terrorists," he said in a briefing with journalists."

*3. "Gazan paramedics and residents said the assault killed scores of people and left mangled bodies of men, women and children strewn around a marketplace and a mosque."

*4 "CNN has no way of verifying casualty numbers reported by the government media office in Gaza. The media office does not differentiate between civilians and militants killed. An Israeli military spokesperson put the number of casualties from the operation at “under 100,” and had no information on how many of those were civilians."

- R9tgokunks ⭕ 21:45, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

None of those sources say that those casualties were all civilians, which is what your text implied and what I changed. I am still not sure where you think I was wrong. In any event, I see you yourself made almost exactly the same change I did (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Current_events/2024_June_8&diff=1227988049&oldid=1227987033&title=Portal%3ACurrent_events%2F2024_June_8&diffonly=1) and without comment!! אקעגן (talk) 21:52, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Again, please read sources first before making changes, and also, please research the topic first before making changes. Read Daniel Hagari and read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Please remember in the future to remain neutral in your editing.

- R9tgokunks ⭕ 21:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

What does Daniel Hagari have anything to do with this? אקעגן (talk) 21:53, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

To enforce an arbitration decision, and for WP:ECR violations, you have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 1 month Wikipedia. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions.

If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. 

ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

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Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."

What was my violation this time?? I didn't see any notices whatsoever that editing the news is ECR. אקעגן (talk) 22:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

With emphasis added: "The restriction applies to all edits and pages related to the topic area, broadly construed". There is no part of Wikipedia where you can discuss or make edits related to this topic. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)