Background edit
An editor, Wbm1058, identified a number of errors. This was originally reported at the OTRS noticeboard: Errors requiring attention
In short, it turned out some agents for using the incorrect tag. Unfortunately, it was not as simple as replacing the incorrect tag with the correct tag. In many cases, a bit of homework was needed. In many cases, it was easy to identify what needed to be done and carry it out.
I corresponded with the editor who first found these errors here
I categorized the issues into a number of cases. I ended up with 11 main cases although some numbers had some sub cases. Those cases are listed in the table below. In many instances I handled a situation in Track of which case it was in an external spreadsheet not included here. When I had finished the low hanging fruit I was down to a number of more difficult cases, each of which are listed in the table below. Some have subsequently been handled and identified with the strikethrough. In one case I see a red link so so that item no longer needs handling.
I ran out of steam in mid-October 2014 although I see Moonriddengirl handled several items subsequently. I recently noticed that editor Wbm1058 has been working on this so I'm revisiting this page. It had a table but no background so I've added this background to help remind anyone reading this page of the issues.
- I worked through the last 25 of these – most I was able to figure out what should be done, even without access to the OTRS tickets – and now the talk namespace is {{error}}-free! Wanted to start the new year with a clean slate.
- Feel free to check my work. One article I tagged for proposed deletion. On a couple others I put up the GFDL but left a note of doubt as to whether permission was given after November 1, 2008. Many I just went with the default license where I had no knowledge to do otherwise. Another or two I reverted to the {{OTRS received}} template, so they are still in some work queue, but just not triggering a template syntax error. Happy New Year! Wbm1058 (talk) 17:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Wbm1058: Thank-you!!! It has been nagging at me that I got started and did not finish this. I'm happy to see that it is now completed.S Philbrick(Talk) 21:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Case Handling edit
| Case | Short description | Long description | My Action |
| 1 | Source is clear, license is clear | The identification of the source is clear the permission statement appears to come from either the copyright holder or a representative, the permission statement appears to cover all necessary elements including the identification of the license. | Replace image tag with text tag |
| 2 | Source is clear, license is Not clear | Same as above except that the permission statement doesn't explicitly mentioned whether the license should be CC, GFDL or dual | Assume CC if dated post November 1, 2008, GFDL if before |
| 3 | Source is included in OTRS | The source material is not identified by a link but is included in full in the OTRS documentation. | Source= field "Text which can be found in the OTRS ticket" |
| 4 | Source is discussed in OTRS | Source is discussed in email but not included in the email. In some cases a diligent researcher might be able to figure out the identification of the source (review references, for example). | Source= field "Text which is described in the OTRS ticket" |
| 5 | Source seems clear but cannot be found | The discussion includes the URL for a source but that source is not accessible today. This might be a 404 message, or a clear indication that the link no longer goes to what it did at the time of the permission. | Included the provided link as a source even though it is not currently valid. |
| 6 | Some plausible inferences need to be made | This covers several different types of things which today we would push for more clarification but I have accepted. For example the person writing might not have clearly claimed ownership of copyright but it seems likely; the person might not have been ex | Accept (with change of tag) |
| 7 | Appears to be image only | If I'm reading the correspondence correctly the person writing is asserting copyright and permission for an image not text. If this is correct we should confirm that the image has the proper tag and then remove the tag from the talk page. | Not yet handled, would like second set of eyes.
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| 8 | Limitations not acceptable today | In some cases the permission statement included a limitation such as no commercial use that we would not accept today. Given that these were accepted years ago, I've not tried to override this permission simply corrected the tag. | Accept (with change of tag) Would be nice to have a second set of eyes
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| 9 | GFDL only, after 1 Nov 2008 | Some permission statements were accepted even though they specify GF DL only after one November 2008. This error was identified some time ago in a cleanup effort undertaken, unfortunately because these items have an image tag I think they were messed. | In consultation with moonriddengirl I drafted an email which I sent to each of the individuals. In some cases I received a positive response and I am classifying these as case 9a. (Tag replaced, no issues) In some cases I have not received a response and I am classifying these as case 9B. In no case did I get a response which rejected the proposal. We have to determine what to do with the case 9B items, which are not yet handled.
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| 10 | Not English | Much of the correspondence is not in English. I used translation software and in many cases was comfortable I could resolve the issue. I only assigned it to case 10 if it was not in English and I was not sure I knew how it should be handled | Not yet handled.
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| 11 | Permission identifies WP page | In some other cases when the permission identified the WP page, there was information indicating the real source, In these, not sure what to do | Not yet handled. |
Open Cases edit
| Case | Open items |
| Talk:Comparison of the Java and .NET platforms | |
| Talk:Phonographic Performance Limited | |
| Case 10 | Talk:Astropecten aranciacus |
| Case 11 | Talk:Colorado Library Consortium |
| ?? | Talk:Cox model engine Unless I missed something, there are 2 issues - one is that I do not see a clear definition of the source material, but the larger one is that we asked for agreement to the license, and I do not see it. |
| Case 10 | Talk:Astropecten |
| Case 10 | Talk:Mirta Roses Periago |
| Case 11 | Talk:Avo Session Basel |
| Not found | Talk:Electrohomeopathy (In discussion with mrg via email to discuss handling) |
| Case 10 | Talk:ERikm |
| Case 9b | Talk:Peter Marshall (author) |
| Case 9b | Talk:Hellenic Electroacoustic Music Composers Association |
| Case 9b | Talk:Jason Graves |
| Case 9b | Talk:American Institute of Ultrasound in Medicine |
| Case 9b | Talk:Jonny Blu |
| Case 9b | Talk:Thomas Pernes |
| Case 9b | Talk:Anaesthesia Trauma and Critical Care |
| Talk:Task-oriented information modelling | |
| Case 9 | Talk:Low plasticity burnishing Not clear which material, still need to send email |
| Case 9b | Talk:Art Christmas Per archive.org, permission was granted on the website, apparently authored by the subject's son, sometime between May 12, 2008 and December 25, 2008. It seems the son died in 2013. Sometime between December 25, 2008 and December 15, 2009, the message at the bottom of that page was modified: "The contents of this website are available for modification and reuse under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.3 and later." to "The contents of this website are available for modification and re-use is permitted under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), versions 1.3 or later and Creative Commons Share Alike (CC-BY-SA), versions 3.0 or later." |
| Case 9b | Talk:HARBEC Plastics |
| Case 9b | Talk:D'Andrea Picks |
| Talk:Gauge gravitation theory | |
| Case 9b | Talk:Groton Long Point Volunteer Fire Department |
| Case 9b | Talk:Andrew Princz Andrew Princz died in 2011 |
| Case 9b | Talk:Colloidal crystal |
| Case 9b | Talk:Phoebe Wall Howard |
| Case 9b | Talk:Culture of Nagorno-Karabakh |
| Case 10 | Talk:TOCSIN project |
| Case 11 | Talk:Kathmandu Jazz Conservatory |
| Case 10 (asked Avi for help) | Talk:Gilead Sher |
| Case 11 | Talk:Symphony Teleca |
| Case 11 | Talk:Ferenc Kölcsey Teacher Training College of the Reformed Church |
| Maybe Case 7? | Talk:George Tchobanoglous I see reference to a photo and text, along with permission for the photo, but not the text.. Some emails not in English, have I missed something? |
| Case 10 | Talk:Astropecten irregularis |
| Case 10 | Talk:Astropecten bispinosus |
| Case 10 | Talk:Astropecten platyacanthus |
| Case 10 | Talk:Astropecten jonstoni |
| Case 10 | Talk:Astropecten spinulosus |
| Not sure what this is. | Talk:Charles Coker Wilson |
| Case 11 | Talk:Twusic Can we assume http://twusic.com/ is meant? Yes: https://web.archive.org/web/20120127132306/http://twusic.com/press-about-twusic |
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