This is a survey of National Rail stations (including London Overground) with interchanges with the London Underground or DLR, and their coverage on Wikipedia (as of 26 January 2008). Hopefully my line abbreviations are clear. Also, I hope I haven't missed anything!
| Station | LU line(s)/DLR | NR operator | Shared platforms/ tracks? |
Shared ticket hall? |
WP article(s) | Single/split | Page size(s) | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Euston | NOR, VIC | Network Rail | No | No | Euston railway station Euston tube station |
Split | 18KB, 14KB | Split way back in November 2004 [1]. Single article would likely exceed 30KB |
| Ealing Broadway | CEN, DIS | First Great Western | No | Yes (NR) | Ealing Broadway station | Single | 9KB | |
| Greenford | CEN | LUL | Platforms | Yes (LUL) | Greenford station | Single | 5KB | |
| Liverpool Street | CEN, CIR, HAM, MET | Network Rail | No | No | Liverpool Street station | Single | 19KB | |
| South Ruislip | CEN | Chiltern Railways | No | Yes (LUL) | South Ruislip station | Single | 4KB | |
| Stratford | CEN, JUB, DLR | one | Platforms | Yes (LUL) | Stratford station | Single | 15KB | |
| West Ruislip | CEN | Chiltern Railways | No | Yes (LUL) | West Ruislip station | Single | 5KB | |
| Barbican | CIR, HAM, MET | LUL | No | Yes (LUL) | Barbican station | Single | 6KB | Cross-platform interchange |
| Blackfriars | CIR, DIS | First Capital Connect | No | No | Blackfriars station | Single | 13KB | |
| Cannon Street | CIR, DIS | Network Rail | No | No | Cannon Street station | Single | 17KB | |
| Farringdon | CIR, HAM, MET | LUL | No | Yes (LUL) | Farringdon station | Single | 7KB | Cross-platform interchange |
| Kings Cross St Pancras | CIR, HAM, MET, NOR, PIC, VIC | various | No | No | King's Cross St. Pancras tube station London King's Cross railway station St Pancras railway station |
Split | 8KB, 20KB, 57KB | Single article not feasible because of complexity |
| Paddington | BAK, CIR, DIS, HAM | Network Rail | No | No | London Paddington station | Single | 22K | Previously split and re-merged in September 2006 [2] (discussion) |
| Victoria | CIR, DIS, VIC | Network Rail | No | No | London Victoria Station | Single | 15KB | |
| Moorgate | CIR, HAM, MET, NOR | LUL | Widened Lines platforms | Yes (LUL) | Moorgate station | Single | 8KB | |
| Barking | DIS, HAM | c2c | Platforms | Yes (NR) | Barking station | Single | 5KB | |
| Gunnersbury | DIS | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Gunnersbury station | Single | 7KB | |
| Kensington Olympia | DIS | London Overground | Platforms | Yes (LO) | Kensington Olympia station | Single | 8KB | |
| Kew Gardens | DIS | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Kew Gardens station (London) | Single | 7KB | |
| Richmond | DIS | South West Trains | Some tracks | Yes (NR) | Richmond station (London) | Single | 12KB | |
| Upminster | DIS | c2c | Platforms | Yes (NR) | Upminster station | Single | 7KB | |
| West Brompton | DIS | LUL | No | Yes (LUL) | West Brompton station | Single | 6KB | Cross-platform interchange |
| Wimbledon | DIS | South West Trains | Platforms | Yes (NR) | Wimbledon station | Single | 11KB | Tracks are NetR-owned but solely used by LUL |
| Greenwich | DLR | Southeastern | No | Yes (NR)* | Greenwich station | Single | 5KB | *DLR stations do not typically have ticket offices. Cross-platform interchange |
| Lewisham | DLR | Southeastern | No | Yes (NR)* | Lewisham station | Single | 7KB | *DLR stations do not typically have ticket offices |
| Limehouse | DLR | c2c | No | Yes (NR)* | Limehouse station | Single | 4KB | *DLR stations do not typically have ticket offices |
| West Ham | DIS, DLR, HAM, JUB | LUL | No | Yes (LUL) | West Ham station | Single | 7KB | |
| New Cross Gate | ELL | Southern | Platforms | Yes (NR) | New Cross Gate station | Single | 4KB | |
| New Cross | ELL | Southeastern | Platforms | Yes (NR) | New Cross station | Single | 4KB | |
| London Bridge | JUB, NOR | Network Rail | No | No | London Bridge station | Single | 12KB | |
| Waterloo | BAK, JUB, NOR, W&C | Network Rail | No | No | Waterloo station Waterloo tube station |
Split* | 12KB, 3KB | *Split in August 2007 [3][4], but top article still contains some tube info. No discussion to speak of. |
| Amersham | MET | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Amersham station | Single | 3KB | |
| Chalfont & Latimer | MET | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Chalfont & Latimer station | Single | 3KB | |
| Chorleywood | MET | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Chorleywood station | Single | 3KB | |
| Harrow-on-the-Hill | MET | LUL | Platforms | Yes (LUL) | Harrow-on-the-Hill station | Single | 6KB | |
| Rickmansworth | MET | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Rickmansworth station | Single | 4KB | |
| Balham | NOR | Southern | No | No | Balham station Balham tube station Balham railway station |
9KB, 5KB, 6KB | Under active debate | |
| Charing Cross | BAK, NOR | Network Rail | No | No | Charing Cross tube station Charing Cross railway station |
Split | 9KB, 7KB | |
| Old Street | NOR | First Capital Connect | No | Yes (LUL) | Old Street station | Single | 4KB | |
| Kentish Town | NOR | First Capital Connect | No | Yes (LUL) | Kentish Town station | Single | 4KB | |
| Finsbury Park | PIC, VIC | First Capital Connect | No | No | Finsbury Park station | Single | 15KB | Direct staircases from NR station to tube platforms |
| Blackhorse Road | VIC | LUL | No | Yes (LUL) | Blackhorse Road station | Single | 2KB | |
| Highbury & Islington | VIC | LUL | No | Yes (LUL) | Highbury & Islington station | Single | 7KB | |
| Seven Sisters | VIC | one | No | Yes | Seven Sisters station | Single | 5KB | "Behind barriers" interchange |
| Tottenham Hale | VIC | one | No | Yes (both) | Tottenham Hale station | Single | 4KB | IIRC there is a single ticket hall, but separate LUL and NR windows |
| Vauxhall | VIC | South West Trains | No | No | Vauxhall station | Single | 3KB | |
| Walthamstow Central | VIC | one | No | No | Walthamstow Central station | Single | 4KB | |
| West Hampstead | JUB | First Capital Connect London Overground |
No | No | West Hampstead railway station West Hampstead tube station |
Split | 6KB, 2KB | Stations not co-located: approx. 100 to 300 metres apart, no direct connection (diagram) |
| Elephant & Castle | BAK, NOR | First Capital Connect | No | No | Elephant & Castle railway station Elephant & Castle tube station |
Split | 4KB, 5KB | Stations not co-located: approx. 100 to 200 metres apart, no direct connection |
| Marylebone | BAK | Chiltern Railways | No | Yes (both) | Marylebone station | Single | 17KB | Separate ticket offices both on NR concourse |
| Queen's Park | BAK | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Queen's Park station | Single | 5KB | |
| Kensal Green | BAK | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Kensal Green station | Single | 4KB | |
| Willesden Junction | BAK | London Overground | Some tracks | Yes (LO) | Willesden Junction station | Single | 7KB | |
| Harlesden | BAK | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Harlesden station | Single | 2KB | |
| Stonebridge Park | BAK | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Stonebridge Park station | Single | 3KB | |
| Wembley Central | BAK | LUL | Some tracks | Yes (LUL) | Wembley Central station | Single | 5KB | |
| North Wembley | BAK | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | North Wembley station | Single | 3KB | |
| South Kenton | BAK | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | South Kenton station | Single | 3KB | |
| Kenton | BAK | LUL | Tracks | Yes (LUL) | Kenton station | Single | 3KB | |
| Harrow & Wealdstone | BAK | LUL | Some tracks | Yes (LUL) | Harrow & Wealdstone station | Single | 9KB |
Notes
edit- "Shared platforms" includes the possibility that a platform which faces onto a track maintained or solely used by LUL is maintained by the NR operator/Network Rail, or vice-versa. Examples of this include Stratford and Greenford.
- "Cross-platform interchange" means there are separately-maintained platforms which are immediately adjacent to each other. Examples of this include West Brompton and Greenwich.
- I decided to omit Canning Town and Custom House, as there are no longer any National Rail services there (and haven't been for over a year), but decided to include New Cross and New Cross Gate.
- "Walking-distance" interchanges where the stations concerned have different names (e.g. Fenchurch Street to Tower Hill) were deliberately omitted, whereas those with the same name were included.
Commentary
editSeparating out the "split" articles from the table above, we have the following:
- Balham: currently under debate here.
- Elephant & Castle and West Hampstead: these stations are clearly totally separate--one has to leave rail property and walk some distance in order to connect between them.
- Kings Cross St Pancras: as commented above, the complexity of this station (in that the tube station serves two distinct National Rail stations), not to mention the article sizes, means that split articles make the most sense here.
- Euston: the tube and railway station articles were split way back in 2004 [5]. The combined article size would likely be over 30KB, so a split on the grounds of size is reasonable. However, the fact that one has to pass through the NR concourse to get to the LUL station is a possible reason for a single article. I think this is a borderline case!
- Charing Cross: the two articles seem to have always been separate: I'm not sure of the reason for this. It could be something to do with the fact that Embankment was previously named Charing Cross until 1974, or that Embankment is still advertised as an interchange (although a walk along Villiers Street would be needed for that). There was a renaming debate in 2006 here, but this was more to do with disambiguation related to Charing Cross (Glasgow) railway station. A merged article would have size around 16KB, which is within guidelines.
- Waterloo: this was split in a rather poorly-executed way in August 2007 [6][7], and the current situation is a bit of a mess. On Talk:Waterloo station, there are various "splits" that have been discussed in the past; these largely involved the issue of splitting off Waterloo East or Waterloo International, rather than the tube station. However, the only discussion on the talk page around August was this, which barely counts as such.
Furthermore, in the case of Paddington there was a clear consensus in favour of having a single article there.
Conclusion: in the vast majority of cases, single articles are used, even when there are no shared tracks, platforms or ticket halls. --RFBailey (talk) 01:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)