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  • checkY Good answer; correctly addresses all points relevant to the question and shows a sound understanding of the issues involved.
  • checkY Nearly a good answer, just something is missing-I will say what
  • ☒N Wrong answer; shows a misunderstanding or wrong answer

Note: Dansong22 is currently inactive

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You need to get a minimum of 7/10 to move on to the next lesson, if you do not, I will create a new test on that lesson for you to try

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OK Dansong, before we begin assignments, I have a few questions for you:

  1. Do you prefer being called Aron or Dansong?

You can call me either Aron or Dan. Your wish.

  1. So you are from Nepal? Great! What times do you usually edit, and how often?
Yes, I am from Kathmandu, Nepal but might be moving out soon! I edit randomly, which means, I don't have any specific time but yeah weekend is best as I would have enough time to :concentrate. However, other days I'd only edit minimally.

Have you got any questions for me?

Yes. So where you from Matt? How long you've been editing in Wikipedia?

ArunBudhathoki 05:58, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Matty.007 18:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Answers to Answers

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Hi Dan, I have been editing Wikipedia since 21 February 2013, so not too long! However, I have made 1041 edits, with 373 to articles. I have Stiki, which is used to help fight vandalism, and I try and welcome new users. Matty.007 16:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Summary:

1.Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and it combines several features. However, it is not the place for putting your point of view, advertising or promoting yourself, and it has certain guidelines.

2.Articles are to be written from a neutral point of view, with veritable sources, i.e. not opinions, interpretations or experience.

3.On Wikipedia, you don't own articles, it is free content to be edited and re-distributed.

4.Treat fellow editors with respect-avoid personal attacks, assume good faith, do not edit to make a point

5.The rules are not carved in stone:the rules evolve, and as such, do not worry too much about mistakenly breaking some in good faith.

Full Article here

Questions-7/10

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1. You have been told by a friend that there was a record heatwave in Kathmandu yesterday. Could you add this to an article? Explain

checkYPerhaps if there's appropriate sources: news articles and on. Or if my friend is a specialist in that field, I might be considering referring to an article by him or else it would be :too fallacious to trust a friend's hypothesis. By the way, heatwaves haven't been recorded in Kathmandu so far since it's a valley!

Sorry, I didn't know about Kathmandu being a valley, I will try and remember!

2. You see a great article on the NTV website about Chief Justice Khil Raj Regmi's search for a new leader. You decide that it is so good, it deserves a Wikipedia page. You copy the page, and create it a Wikipedia article, and paste it there. Is this the right thing to do? Explain

checkYNo, it's wrong because it's plagiarism. Copying is strictly a no-no for me, be it either academic, poetry writing or even in Wikipedia writing. However, I might re-write on my own way and give proper references if it deserves a page!

Right. However, you can copy brief quotes to illustrate your point


3. You think that the article on Nepal is not showing enough about the fascinating workings of the TV service. You edit in how you know it works, helping people with your review of the service. Is this right? Explain

checkYI am not fascinated by the TV service and I don't think it deserves a lengthy space in Nepal page. I might a small summary of how it works but wouldn't in anyway review a particular TV station because I do not prefer siding with any TV service or whatsoever. I don't edit to get paid but because I like to work for disseminating what's right and what's wrong--be it TV service or any others.

That is correct

4. You get a book autographed by Yuyutsu Sharma at a book fair in Dahran, so edit his page saying where he was and what he was doing. Is this right? Explain

☒NCertainly. I know him personally and he's an internationally acclaimed poet of Nepal. But just because I know him personally doesn't mean I would add exaggerating stuffs in his article. I think it's important to record real-time events in Wikipedia too.

This doesn't really meet with the standard of this, or the first pillar-Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and the event needs to have "significant, non-routine coverage that persists over a period of time. Coverage should be in multiple reliable sources with national or global scope", which seeing Sharma at a book fair probably won't get

5. You create a page on your sandbox about the environment of Nepal. You go back a couple of days later, and find it has been copied, and created by another user. Is this right? Explain

☒NNo, it is not right. As I explained previously that I'm strongly against plagiarism in any forms I'd request the user of what he's done and in my capacity take necessary actions. What I write shouldn't be copied by another user and take the credit by himself. This is wrong.

Although I agree that it is immoral, it is within the Wikipedia rules, with it being said that "No one, no matter how skilled, or of how high standing in the community, has the right to act as though he or she is the owner of a particular article." Additionally, when you click save page, there is a bar above it which has the words "you irrevocably agree to release your contribution".

6. You see some text shamelessly copied from one of your articles on a leading news site. You consider action, as they have not acknowledged using your page! What should you do? Explain

☒NThis is a key issue I'm suffering at the moment! Recently one Nepali guy quoted from an interview from my website but didn't mention the website's name at all. His article was published in The Kathmandu Post. I haven't been able to take proper action though I wrote to his Uni and to TKP. But yes I want to take action and I think I need to report to Wikipedia about the copying and talk with the news site too about the plagiarism. I believe Wikipedia would certainly take actions on my behalf.

Although I again agree that it is immoral, it is licensed to be shamelessly and bandied around without attribution, "If you contribute text directly to Wikipedia, you thereby license it to the public for reuse". However, your website may have different rules to these, you may need to contact your web address provider to find out about this...

7. A user swears all over your userpage (it happens) for undoing his edits to a page. Do you do the same to him? Explain

checkYNo, I don't. I don't prefer using swear language. I'd rather give him my reasons as why I edited his page and if he's problem he'd rather complain to a higher authority for further review whether my edit was right or wrong.

Completely right!

8. A new user has completely changed one of the articles you created, so you undo his edits, then post a vandalism warning on his user page. Is this right? Explain

checkYOf course. Vandalism is a key issue in Wikipedia and Internet. It's the motto of Wikipedia editors and other administrators to make sure that no articles ought to be vandalised.

You need to not bite newcomers, so it is preferable to give them a good faith warning if it can be done. However, this is right if it is obviously vandalism.

9. You make a mistake, copying an article from NTV onto a Wikipedia article. What can you do?

checkYI realise my mistake and remove the article or else I would re-write and give reference to the original article.

You should only copy brief quotes, if anything

10. You see an obviously vandalized article on something you know nothing about. Do you change it back again? Explain

checkYOf course not. I'd rather report it to other editors. I should know something about it or else I'd first research about the topic and when knowing enough about it I'd later change it back.

Great answer!

Any questions?

No questions :)
ArunBudhathoki 06:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Five Pillars of Wikipedia checkY
Congratulations on completing the lesson on the Five Pillars of Wikipedia! You're one step closer to graduation!

Feel free to post this on your user page! Matty.007 17:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

First Assignment

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Please now try and find an edit, or indeed article, which doesn't obey one of the rules. Please post a link to that page's history, and revert the edit, or if the article needs deleting, just post the link, there are special gadgets to delete pages. You may find this helpful.

Thanks, Matty.007 17:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Matt,
I do not understand the second part: Please post a link to that page's history, and revert the edit, or if the article needs deleting, just post the link, there are special gadgets to delete :pages.
Which link should I post to the page's history? How do I do it? And revert the edit? It's a bit mind-boggling to me. Hope you don't mind answering my questions! I've started to edit articles :however!
cheers
arun
Arun Budhathoki 11:54, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Arun Budhathoki 12:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Arun,
Sorry if I confused you. All I was asking is that you find an edit which disobeys one or more of the above 'pillars', fix it up is possible, and then copy and paste the web address. Thanks, Matty.007 14:49, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello Matt,

Three articles that I looked over!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_Three_%28Dallas%29#cite_note-home-3 (got deleted)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnston_Library

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayflower_scouts_group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSRM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastobasis_pulchella

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangpur_Stadium

regards arun Arun Budhathoki 09:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Arun,

What I was asking you to do, was to find a page, possibly new, and improve it. I would advise not using tags yet, I will try and put in a tag lesson later on. Please can you do this again on only one article?

Thanks, Matty.007 16:27, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello Matt,

Sorry I misunderstood your instructions. I'll look for a page and try to improve it then.

Cheers arun Arun Budhathoki 05:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

That's fine, we all make mistakes!

Matty.007 19:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Request

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Hi I'm improving this page...Can you please do something about the speedy deletion tag?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arun_budhathoki

Daniel Song 06:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dan,
Writing autobiographies on Wikipedia is discouraged, as it is felt to induce bias in the editing of said article. Also, sources (are meant to include good sources from places such as news companies, but this may not always be possible to get, for example on historical articles. I see that you have created articles, The Applicant, and Arun Budhathoki. These both seem to be about you, which as I have said is discouraged. A good place to look, if you are more of the type of person who creates articles, is the requested pages. However, you may need to judge for yourself how notable all the subjects are... (Young Uttam Sanjel is the only Thai biography requested at current.)
Thanks, Matty.007 07:02, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Please can you redo the task above, the first assignment. Thanks, Matty.007 16:31, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
Help:which of the five pillars does this fail? Matty.007 14:03, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Dansong22:are you still wanting adoption? (Sorry, editing in VE: I don't know how to sign posts). Matty.007 10:33, 4 August 2013 (UTC)