“ | The second response (to criticism of Wikipedia) is: the collaborative nature of the apparatus means that the right data tends to emerge, ultimately, even if there is turmoil temporarily as dichotomous viewpoints violently intersect. To which I reply: that does not inspire confidence. In fact, it makes the whole effort even more ridiculous. What you've proposed is a kind of quantum encyclopedia, where genuine data both exists and doesn't exist depending on the precise moment I rely upon your discordant fucking mob for my information. -- from Penny Arcade | ” |
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This user openly admits to being a complete jackass, please put him in his place.
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Mifter (talk) 10:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC) --BorgQueen (talk) 16:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC) | --
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I used to be Wikiwise , and edit pages under sunny skies
But now those days are gone and old, swept away in ice and cold I've seen some things I wish not to have seen, to have learned, to have been And now I'm back under another name, hopefully this time to garner less fame.
I only work on articles, I don't AfD or clean Spam I was never blocked or ArbCommed, I never was an admin or clerk Back then people called me "difficult" and now they call me jerk
My location is the only place you can see more cows than stars My job is something boring, my hobbies inane and stale Which is why I'm editing this gigantic database of Fail I used to be wikiwise, but that makes me a wikifool. And at least this time I know my way, instead of being someone's tool. |
What is NPOV? Why is it bullshit? |
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(Please note this is my personal opinion.)
NPOV is some sort of hilarious, pie-in-the-sky fantasy that some people have that everything can be written about from the point of view of someone who is a strictly neutral observer. It's completely logical in many cases. Things where scientific evidence is clear; where the preponderance of history is firm; where the overwhelming consensus from anyone you ask is clear. An article on the Moon Landings is not NPOV because it doesn't mention the idea they may be a hoax: anyone who believes the moon landings are a hoax is bat-fuck insane. Catering to the wishes of flat-earthers, creationists, Scientologists, numerologists, and anyone who doesn't believe that the Kirby Silver Surfer is the best Silver Surfer ever is just catering to the frothing at the mouth crowd. No, I have no problem with that kind of NPOV. But how can you have NPOV over events where there isn't a clear set of scientific evidence, such as with stem cells? What if the preponderance of history is one of dueling claims? You seriously expect a pack of power-tripping lunatics, teenagers, bored housewives, Aspies and detailed-fixated dilantantes to solve the greatest controversies in the history of the world by finding a neutral viewpoint everyone agree on? Thus, my rule: If NPOV is in dispute in an article, I do not edit it. I do not get involved in it's AfD, I don't find references for it, and I certainly stay completely the fuck away from it's talk page. |
What's expected of editors? |
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Well, children, this is going to be difficult. I'm going to list out the appropiate policy page and then my translation.
There's a lot of this garbage and more, and yet, this is not what the fuck should be expected out of editors. Here's my own list
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Writing for Wikipedia (AKA, Drooling for dollars) |
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Writing for an encyclopedia is not the same as writing for a newspaper, or even an academic paper. It's more like writing for a pack of lunatics who may or may not see what you are doing. Don't think of it as working on a academic paper, their standards are FAAAAAR stronger than WP would ever be. An encyclopedia should be a boring agreement on what the definition and description of a topic is. Everything else anyone tells you is bullshit. |
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