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Statement of the dispute

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Dennis Bratland (talk · contribs) has engaged in obscenity and repeated histrionics abusing and intimidating other editors, and though given time to cool down, refused to repent of the misbehavior and strike-through the profanities.

Desired outcome

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As to the obscenity, that User:Dennis Bratland will follow the simple procedures for repudiating one's own uncivil comments, and (if appropriate) consider apologizing, with attention to more civil remarks in edit summaries and talk pages in future. If User:Dennis Bratland persists in refusing to make amends, then a block would be appropriate (given that it already is appropriate). The Wikipedia civility policy page says "[e]ven a single act of severe incivility can result in blocks; for example, a single episode of extreme verbal abuse or profanity directed at another contributor."

Description

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Obscenity:

"What the fuck? Who cares? Your opinions about this source don't belong here."

--and--

". . . now you are trying to undermine the source by implying that they are unreliable because they are academics or Scottish (really, what the fuck?)."

User:Dennis Bratland is an experienced editor who should know better. The editor on the receiving end was User:Arrivisto who by his own account: " . . .used to describe myself as a Wikipedia novice, but at last I'm starting to get the hang of things. However, I'm not complacent and am still keen to improve, and I do my best to avoid "editor skirmishes". This was not quite biting a newbie, but it comes close.

In addition to profanity editor User:Dennis Bratland is prone to abusive hyperbole, like "you're dead in the water at Wikipedia" and the triumphant "[a]ll you accomplished was getting the page protected from editing." (page protection User:Dennis Bratland had requested.) Rather than assisting in improving others' contributions, like providing the missing cites in cases of unfootnoted text, the editor instantly reverts any changes to a page over which he hovers, to which he contributed heavily, and which he seems to consider his own: Types of motorcycles.

In this instance the abuse and harassment achieved the objective (if that is what it was) of intimidating User:Arrivisto so he was no longer willing to contribute to an article involving User:Dennis Bratland because, in his words, "my relationship with User:Dennis Bratland has not been entirely happy." Another (newbie) editor editing under an IP address involved in the same exchange with User:Dennis Bratland said: "Sob. Losing faith in Wikipedia here." So the profanity and escalating incivility had at least two casualties, two editors intimidated.

Evidence of disputed behavior

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  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Types_of_motorcycles&diff=573193864&oldid=573193628
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Types_of_motorcycles&diff=573193628&oldid=573193546

(also see above)

Applicable policies and guidelines

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  1. WP:CIV
  2. WP:IUC
  3. WP:VULGAR
  4. WP:PERSONAL
  5. WP:OWN
  6. WP:HA

Evidence of trying and failing to resolve the dispute

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After passions had cooled I invited User:Dennis Bratland as gently as I could to reconsider the intemperate language here. The response was self-justification and attempting to revisit the dispute here. After 48 hours, I tried another nudge, here. The response was to dig in his heels, here, and suggest I take the issue to a noticeboard with the remark in the edit summary "we're done here."

Very well then. Here we are.ElijahBosley (talk ☞) 18:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Attempts by certifier C1

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Attempts by certifier C2

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