User:DankJae/Wales-related names/2

Stage 2

Casnewydd Bach

• Name: Casnewydd Bach → Little Newcastle
• Reasoning: Rvt past misleading move
• Policy: WP:COMMONNAME
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

Revert non-commonname move from a few years back. It argued "local name", use by a resident, using the name used/preferred by the community itself, its use at the top of road signs (all road signs are bilingual, with "Little Newcastle" on them, as English names follow Welsh in the entire county, not indicating "common use") and argued the name isn't used by the Welsh-speaking population, this is English Wikipedia... Sources use Little Newcastle, so indicating its actual WP:COMMONNAME. The move also argued it was the sole name used by Ordnance Survey, but this OS map via Bing, uses "Little Newcastle".

All sources in the article itself use "Little Newcastle". As do the local history society (site is bilingual), Western Telegraph[1][2], Wales Farmer, Church in Wales, BBC[3], Dyfed Archaeological Trust, Pembrokeshire Council, RCAHMW, Puncheston Council, Pembrokeshire Herald, Welsh Government's Welsh Language Commissioner WalesOnline uses both, having LN first. These sources do use it, but only when referencing Black Bart, which raises concerns of WP:CIRCULAR or using the historical name for context: nearby council Insider Media, Royal Museums Greenwich.

Ngrams shows the common name is Little Newcastle.

Abereiddy

• Name: Abereiddy → Abereiddi
• Reasoning: New common name
• Policy: WP:COMMONNAME
• Result:
• Status: ✗ Fail

"Abereiddi" is used by: National Trust, , Tenby Today,

Ngrams shows currently "Abereiddy" is more used by 2019, however "Abereiddi" was more used between 1983 and 1990, and 1996 and 2004.

Pembrokeshire Coast National Park uses both, possibly in transition, the most visible parts of its site (exc. place names), and mainly for the beach, use "Abereiddi", but documents from a few years ago use "Abereiddy" for the village, as well as these references[4]. . Others using both The Independent, Western Telegraph[5][6], WalesOnline[7][8]

These sources use "Abereiddy": Visit Pembrokeshire, BBC[9], The Guardian, Herald.Wales, ITV, The Pembrokeshire Herald, The Telegraph.

Fail, still more sources use "Abereiddy", while many "Abereddi" seem very related to specifically the beach, blue lagoon, or bay, not the village.

Aber Village

• Name: Aber Village → Aberclydach
• Reasoning: New common name
• Policy: WP:COMMONNAME
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

Abercraf

• Name: Abercraf → Abercrave
• Reasoning: New common name
• Policy: WP:COMMONNAME
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

Road signs only have "Abercraf"

Dyffryn Ogwen

• Name: Dyffryn Ogwen → Ogwen Valley
• Reasoning: New common name
• Policy: WP:COMMONNAME
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

Crai, Powys

• Name: Crai, Powys → Cray, Powys
• Reasoning: New common name. Should not be influenced by Crai Reservoir.
• Policy: WP:COMMONNAME
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

Road signs only have "Crai", although the village itself has some Welsh-only signs.

Crai Reservoir

• Name: Crai Reservoir → Cray Reservoir
• Reasoning: New common name. Should not be influenced by Crai, Powys.
• Policy: WP:COMMONNAME
• Result:
• Status:  In progress

A main sign only has "Crai Reservoir".