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This user feels that fair use images have no place in a free content encyclopedia. |
I've been thinking of a reason to replace it with “no fair use unless absolutely needed”, but I'm yet to learn of such a case.
- Unreproducible situations.
- Things which are going to become free soon.
- But those excuses are not perfect.
- --AVRS (talk) 17:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
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Why edit
Wikipedia edit
Wikipedia calls itself “The Free Encyclopedia”, meaning freedom of the content, not its price.[1]
That doesn’t work well with fair use as defined by Wikipedia’s guidelines. Only Wikipedia’s text content is free right now, everything else is “various”.
Thus, Wikipedia as a whole also cannot be licensed under GNU FDL.
You cannot include a proprietary piece into an object and license the object under GNU FDL. You cannot call the non-free images invariant sections, since they are not Secondary.
- The above two paragraphs, at least as worded, are probably wrong. That doesn't make those significant multimedia parts of Wikipedia free though (that's why there is this userbox). --AVRS (talk) 17:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Most fair use is worse than just NoDerivatives or Noncommercial stuff, because the latter explicitly permits you to do something, like verbatim distribution and use for certain purposes.
In the Pringles article, there are 4 photos of the cans (two of them pretty clear), and 2 logos.
In this case, the logo is not even necessary for identification, because the photos (at least the first one) show the logo clearly enough to recognize it. And that image is at Wikimedia Commons, however right that is. (not anymore. --AVRS (talk) 17:42, 28 September 2009 (UTC))
See also: User:Angr.
- Thanks. Now I see the problem with fair use a little better. IANAL, but it seems that it is not legal for someone to create a full copy of Wikipedia due to fair use images.-- Mumia-w-18
“Fair use” edit
There may be one place where fair use is needed: screenshots of free software incorporating icons under a free license incompatible with its own. Also screenshots of free games, though compatible licenses would be better. --AVRS (talk) 14:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
References edit
Non-free screenshots edit
Free software that can run on a free OS I have (GNU/Linux), but is shot with decorations of a proprietary environment instead edit
- Image:OOo Draw Screenshot.png in OpenOffice.org Draw --16:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
No argument = confusing position edit
I'm a little confused on your position WRT fair use images. You seem to be against them, but you don't make an argument against them.
BTW, thanks for helping protect the Mozilla Firefox page.
— Mumia-w-18 09:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out! I’m trying to fix that, see the Why section above. --AVRS 11:18, 28 October 2007 (UTC)