Template talk:Year television series debuts or endings category/core

Order of navbox and hatnote

@BrownHairedGirl: why did you restore the navigation template above the hatnote? This is the only template in the series that does this. It's also not the correct order used for articles (MOS:ORDER) and as that is the closest thing we have for category order, it should follow the MoS. --Gonnym (talk) 11:48, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

@Gonnym: I thought that nav first was the order used on the other TV templates, and that I had goofed. I hadn't spotted that you had edited it.

I am happy to standardise on one or the other, but I don't think that MOS:ORDER is applicable to categories. The problem with categories is that the "body text" equivalent is the contents listing, so lots of stuff which should be at the bottom of an article ends up at the top of a category page, such as portals and navigation.

My objection to putting the "see also" hatnote at the top is that it then isn't distinguished from the output of {{Category explanation}} ... but I don't think any of these TV cathead template use {{Category explanation}}. If that's the case, then yes, hatnotes to top is good.--BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:12, 4 March 2020 (UTC)