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Latest comment: 3 years ago by BrownHairedGirl in topic Category version of this template?
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Category version of this template? edit

@Marcocapelle, BrownHairedGirl, and Fayenatic london: I've used this template to delightful effect @ WT:Cleanup#Leftover MOS:DATERANGE page moves, and then realized a category version would be similarly useful. I don't CfD much, but y'all do. Would y'all find a category version of this template useful? That is, a new template like {{Category redirect?}} that displays either an italicized cat name if it's a redirect, or displays normally if not? The only caveat is that, being an expensive function, only 500 would be allowed on any particular page/CfD.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:26, 30 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Good Olfactory: for good measure.   ~ Tom.Reding (talkdgaf)  15:33, 30 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

  • Thanks for the ping, @Tom.Reding. But I can't think of a situation where this would be helpful overall.
A CFD listing consists of one or more entries of the form
'''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Example 1]] to [[:Category:Example 2]]
or
'''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Example 3]] to [[:Category:Example 4]]
The only way that this could help if each category was wrapped in the new template, which I'll call {{CategoryRedirect?}}, so those entries would have to be written as:
'''Propose renaming''' {{CategoryRedirect?|Category:Example 1}} to {{CategoryRedirect?|Category:Example 2}}
or
'''Propose merging''' {{CategoryRedirect?|Category:Example 3}} to {{CategoryRedirect?|Category:Example 4}}
That could be built into WP:Twinkle, but many CFD noms don't use Twinkle, so they would be omitted. And multiple-cat noms can't use Twinkle ... so for a lot of nominations, this template would have to be applied manually. That adds extra work for the nominator, with low benefit because the incidence of redirects is low.
Then, if the consensus is to merge or rename, we have a further problem. The closing admin implements the decision by copying the CFD listing line to WP:CFDW, where the bot uses those lines as its instruction. But the bot won't recognise the markup with the template, so the bot would need to be recoded.
So, on top of the fact that use of this template would break some CFD listings when the page has more than 250 categories listed), it seems to me to cause a lot of problems for rare and minor gain. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC)Reply