Template talk:Infobox plutonium

Latest comment: 8 days ago by Double sharp in topic Infobox image

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The image File:Plutonium3.jpg, which has long been used for this article, is a 1945 black and white image. I think it should be changed to File:Plutonium ring.jpg, which is also a sample of nearly pure metallic plutonium, but a newer color image. This has been debated before in the edit history: [1] It was argued that the plutonium ring image is unsuitable because it's oxidized, but we know for sure that the 1945 grayscale image isn't oxidized too and we can't see it because it's grayscale? Pinging @Materialscientist:, @Double sharp:, and @Whoop whoop pull up:, who were involved in this issue. HertzDonuts (talk) 20:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would say the fact that the plutonium-ring image is in color, and, thus, gives a much-better idea of what plutonium actually looks like, outweighs the presence of surface oxidation on the ring, especially given that we don't seem to mind using images of superficially-oxidized samples in the infoboxen for other elements (just to list a few, the infoboxen for scandium, lead, and uranium are all illustrated by samples of the metals with surface oxidation present) and that the oxidation on the ring is very visibly superficial, taking the form of a discoloration of the metallic surface rather than any significant coat or crust. (Also, looking closely at the grayscale button, I strongly suspect that it has surface oxidation as well.) Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 22:33, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Sc and Pb pictures show both a relatively untarnished cube, together with other tarnished lumps. So it's not quite the same. Uranium is indeed an issue, but I'm not sure we even have a picture of untarnished uranium.
But to be fair, there's obviously going to be a shortage of images of Pu, and all of the existing ones will probably have drawbacks. If it's generally thought that an oxidised colour image is better than a less-oxidised black-and-white one, that's fine with me. Double sharp (talk) 05:53, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Reply