Template talk:IPA-de/Archive 1
Latest comment: 12 years ago by Michael Bednarek in topic Swiss German
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Swiss German
I've directed Swiss German, {{IPA-gsw}}, here. Don't know if we want to expand this template to reflect that, or redirect it to IPA-all. — kwami (talk) 15:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have invoked IPA-gsw and was surprised to see it arriving here since I was looking for a distinction from IPA-de.
- Thinking as a programmer, I would have the redirect add a 2nd parm "gsw" which resolves as a change in prompt.
- How is it normally done?
- (gsw. Gunshot wound. Weird.)
- Varlaam (talk) 04:24, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- You mean, how to show "Gstaad (Swiss German pronunciation: [kʃtaːd]), is a village …"? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- Do I detect extrasensory powers? I do! I do!
- Off hand, I am not aware of other conflicts since my German is Deutschland German (teacher was an East Berlin refugee), but there would undoubtedly be others, eh?
- I have seen a similar problem often with Mexican places or people where we have a "Spanish" pronunciation, meaning Castilian, and not something one hears there (where I have family).
- Varlaam (talk) 18:30, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
- As I've demonstrated, the template {{IPA-de}} and its siblings are quite flexible to allow the specific dialect to be mentioned. The template {{IPA-es}} can be used to show Mexican Spanish: trastos (Mexican Spanish pronunciation: [ˈtɾasts]). -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:19, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- There's been some consensus to transcribe langs using the internat standard used in the IPA key unless there's specific reason to indicate a regional pronunciation. The problem is how specific we want to be. With Spanish, for example, there's a lot more diversity than simple soseo and yeismo. If we start transcribing local pronunciations, people will naturally expect them to reflect the local pronunciation, and it most cases they won't. We've decided therefore to go with Castillian, which we document in the IPA key and which can be easily deduced from the orthography. — kwami (talk) 05:30, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- Of course. But I imagine that in articles about, say Swiss or Mexican subjects, a regional pronunciation might be called for. I just pointed out how that can done. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- There's been some consensus to transcribe langs using the internat standard used in the IPA key unless there's specific reason to indicate a regional pronunciation. The problem is how specific we want to be. With Spanish, for example, there's a lot more diversity than simple soseo and yeismo. If we start transcribing local pronunciations, people will naturally expect them to reflect the local pronunciation, and it most cases they won't. We've decided therefore to go with Castillian, which we document in the IPA key and which can be easily deduced from the orthography. — kwami (talk) 05:30, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- As I've demonstrated, the template {{IPA-de}} and its siblings are quite flexible to allow the specific dialect to be mentioned. The template {{IPA-es}} can be used to show Mexican Spanish: trastos (Mexican Spanish pronunciation: [ˈtɾasts]). -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:19, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
- You mean, how to show "Gstaad (Swiss German pronunciation: [kʃtaːd]), is a village …"? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)