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Replacement of the country name edit

According to ISO 3166-1 alpha-3, the ESH code is assigned to Western Sahara, which is a territory, but not a state. So, there is a issue regarding the current use of this template, mainly in political articles.

This template is often associated with a flag, which is the flag of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, an unofficial state who claims the Western Sahara. Morocco claims also Western Sahara and largely controls the territory. So, association between Western Sahara and the so-called “flag of Western Sahara” is anything, except NPOV.

Therefore, I have replaced Western Sahara with Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. Since it is inaccurate (regarding ISO 3166-1 alpha-3), we must consider that only as a temporary measure. --Juiced lemon 12:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Huh? Since the ISO code is for "Western Sahara," the template should read "Western Sahara." If necessary, change the context in which it appears in articles, but don't break the article by inserting different text into the template. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 15:18, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
The flag of the SADR will be not be used for Western Sahara. Get it koavf. It will not be allowed. Don't waste your time and ours.--A Jalil 15:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
The ISO code is for “Western Sahara”, but the English Wikipedia uses the ISO code for “Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic”. It will take a lot of time to find an appropriate and consensual solution. In my opinion, the replacement I have made in the template is the best remedy for the time being. --Juiced lemon 15:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
What? Where did you get the idea that "the English Wikipedia uses the ISO code for 'Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic?'" You're the one that inserted it into the template... Where else is this used as such? You're not making any sense, here. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 15:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I have restored the previous caption, after I have fixed the incorrect uses of this ISO code. --Juiced lemon 19:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Right You have restored the proper text, but inserted a map. See where this is used and you'll see flags alongside an inexplicable map. You're still breaking the use of the template. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 19:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Flag removed edit

Since the article of Western Sahara refers to a geographic region whose governance is disputed, I don't think it is appropriate to associate any flag with it. Therefore, I have removed the flag template call, but preserved the flag icon spacing so that articles that use this template in a list will retain text alignment. Please see Template talk:Country data Western Sahara for additional discussion. Andrwsc 19:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Eh! return the Saharaui flag! It is the official flag recognized by the 85 countries of the world who have recognized the independence of Western Sahara. There is not any geographic region called Western Sahara because geographically there is not frontiers in the Saharaian sand. Western Sahara is the short name name of the legitimate Arab saharaui Democratic Republic, Souther Provinces is the name of the de facto colonized Morocco's part and Spanish Sahara is the name of de iure colonial name.

May 2010 edit warring edit

This template has been stable for a couple of years, but edit-warring has commenced again. Please discuss the issue here so that a consensus can be reached. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:34, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

POV Template edit

Since Western Sahara is a disputed territory, and since this template associates the name of the disputed territory to the flaf of one of its claimants, it is POV and should be edited.

One of the solutions consists in the replacement of the current flag (SADR's one) by a more neutral one (like this one:  ) or any flag that can be consensual. Another solution is to put no flag.

Any opinions?

Regards,
--Omar-toons (talk) 04:08, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Reply