Template talk:Closed rfc top

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Sceptre in topic Requested move 12 May 2020

Documentation?!

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Could someone please add some 'Template documentation' to this template (and probably {{Rfc bottom}} too)?! I assume it works like the other discussion 'closing' templates, but it would be good if it included the documentation explaining that!... Thanks in advance. --IJBall (talk) 22:19, 30 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

  Resolved

--IJBall (contribstalk) 07:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 26 December 2016

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. It would appear that all parties are in agreement that the issue here is the bot in question. As such, this is the wrong forum for solving the issue. JPG-GR (talk) 02:33, 14 January 2017 (UTC)Reply



– Quoting Redrose64's edit summary on Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template, Legobot will add a |rfcid= to all templates beginning "{{rfc" (not just {{rfc}} itself), so these template names cannot without causing bot issues, and thus they should be moved to titles that can. Pppery 01:38, 26 December 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 19:35, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Legobot matching

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I see that Legoktm accepted Enterprisey's pull request to prevent Legobot from matching {{rfc top on July 28. However, Legobot is still matching this string, as seen in Special:Diff/930501821. Has the code at https://github.com/legoktm/harej-bots/blob/master/rfcbot.php not yet been deployed, or is there some other issue that's causing Legobot to act this way? Pinging Redrose64 and ToThAc, who were recently affected by this. — Newslinger talk 00:35, 13 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

It matched {{Rfc bottom}}, not {{Rfc top}} in that edit. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:42, 13 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Pppery, that makes sense. I guess we would need another revision to prevent that, too. — Newslinger talk 02:53, 13 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
PR created. Good catch. Enterprisey (talk!) 07:10, 13 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
Much appreciated, Enterprisey. Thank you! — Newslinger talk 07:34, 13 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Nomination of Template:Rfc bottom for merging of Template:ACR bottom

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 Template:ACR bottom has been nominated for merging with Template:Cem bottom. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. –MJLTalk 20:20, 29 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

@MJL: Please read through your post carefully. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:46, 29 December 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Redrose64: I may have cut some corners on that one.. –MJLTalk 00:02, 30 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 12 May 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. The fact that the documentation says not to use the title it's at because it'd break an automated process, and that the automated process hasn't been edited to stop the breaking, means that the least harm option is moving this template. Sceptre (talk) 07:22, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply



Template:Rfc topTemplate:Closed rfc top – The documentation for this template, Template:Rfc top/doc, explicitly instructs editors not to use the template's current name – Template:Rfc top – because doing so frequently interferes with the operation of Legobot:

It is important to use the redirects {{closed rfc top}}/{{closed rfc bottom}} since if the direct transclusions {{rfc top}}/{{rfc bottom}} are used, Legobot (talk · contribs) can interpret them as open RfCs, making edits like these with this result.

The proposed name – Template:Closed rfc top – is the name that need to be typed out in order to correctly use this template while ensuring that Legobot functions properly. Legobot has been the only bot that administers requests for comments (RfCs) since September 2013, and keeping Legobot in working order is essential to the RfC process.

The current name is a problem because editors frequently use it without understanding the disruption it causes to Legobot. This creates a maintenance burden in which editors have to manually fix the resulting problems (as in Special:Diff/956097780 and Special:Diff/956098403). In practice, most of this burden falls on a single editor, Redrose64, who monitors and addresses the situation every time it arises.

By renaming the template to the proposed name, editors would be more likely to use the proposed (correct) name, thereby reducing this maintenance burden.

This move was requested over three years ago, but the request failed because editors preferred to have Legobot fixed. However, Legobot has not yet been fixed despite previous efforts (see Enterprisey's pull request from five months ago), and we have been stuck with the maintenance burden. I propose to move the template to address the issue immediately. If Legobot ever gets fixed or if another bot ever replaces Legobot's RfC administration (which may not happen for many years), we would always be able to move this template back to its current name. — Newslinger talk 12:06, 12 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Note: The page {{Rfc bottom}} is a redirect to {{Archive bottom}} and cannot be used as a current title in a move request, so this request has been altered to reflect that fact. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 15:50, 16 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for noticing this. As {{Closed rfc bottom}} currently redirects to {{Archive bottom}}, a move of {{Rfc bottom}} (which also redirects to {{Archive bottom}}) would not be necessary. — Newslinger talk 17:30, 16 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

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