Template:Did you know nominations/Trout Run (retreat)

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Trout Run (retreat) edit

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~~... that Trout Run, a retreat used by Presidents Hoover, Roosevelt and Eisenhower, might be turned into a facility for the Church of Scientology's drug rehabilitation program Narconon?~~

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Château du duc d'Épernon‎

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 10:50, 22 May 2015 (UTC).

New enough, long enough, and within policy. No apparent close-paraphrasing. Interesting hook, its facts are cited, and its length is fine. QPQ done. GTG. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:18, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

, Per Prioryman's request, recent events have changed the situation. — Maile (talk) 12:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

This is not ready for a reviewer, as the new hook promised by Prioryman has not yet been submitted (and is clearly needed). I've struck the original hook, and when the new hook is submitted, a full re-review should be done, since there have been significant updates to the article since the original review. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

The changes haven't been particularly profound - see this diff. Here's a new hook (which for once I won't refer to as ALT1 as this is a straight replacement for the original). Prioryman (talk) 20:53, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Church of Scientology unsuccessfully sought to convert Trout Run, a retreat used by Presidents Hoover, Roosevelt and Eisenhower, into a facility for its Narconon drug rehab program?

Calling the new hook ALT1 because it's different from the original hook, and that's how we label subsequent hooks here at DYK to avoid confusion. Reviewer needed to check the ALT1 hook and the new material in the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I think ALT1 unsuitable; the Church of Scientology failed to get the building listed as a historic building rather than failing to get it approved for drug rehabilitation. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:09, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

The hook doesn't say anything about getting it approved for drug rehabilitation, which was never on the agenda in the first place. The point of the historic designation was so that the CoS could do an end run around local building restrictions and, as the hook says, convert the property for use as a drug rehab centre through the historic designation.R Prioryman (talk) 17:50, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Sure, trying to get the building listed as a historic building was a ruse that did not succeed. But this is only one step in a process, there may be an appeal or they may reapply in a year, so I don't think you can say "unsuccessfully sought ...". How about

ALT2: ... that the Church of Scientology has plans to convert Trout Run, a retreat used by Presidents Hoover, Roosevelt and Eisenhower, into a facility for its Narconon drug rehab program? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:16, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, I'm sure that will do. Prioryman (talk) 19:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

I'll give ALT2 a tick on the basis that, although I proposed it, it has not introduced any new facts. The nomination meets other DYK criteria and is good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:59, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

That's fair enough, it's basically just a rewording of my originally proposed hook. Prioryman (talk) 21:19, 14 June 2015 (UTC)